Path: utzoo!censor!geac!torsqnt!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!rutgers!aramis.rutgers.edu!athos.rutgers.edu!christian From: psb@eesun1.eece.ksu.edu (Phil Buckland) Newsgroups: soc.religion.christian Subject: Re: Prayer and Paradoxes Message-ID: Date: 24 Dec 90 08:51:07 GMT Sender: hedrick@athos.rutgers.edu Organization: Kansas State University Lines: 33 Approved: christian@aramis.rutgers.edu [Andy Lumsdaine asked several questions about prayer, including 1) What is the actual mechanism by which God hears our prayers? The NT is clear in making the Holy Spirit (who indwells all Christians) the agency by which this occurs (since He intercedes for us with groanings too deep for words). Whether such a spiritual conduit is bound to physical means is unknown to me, but I would suspect that such means are not necessary. >2) Does God answer our prayers before we pray them? God 'uses' the righteous and the unrighteous to accomplish His purposes. His prime purpose involves the desire to see *all* saved (including me and you :-). That such an insight as you have here is startling is understandable, but it is more due to its unexpectedness than its reality. >I don't expect any quick or easy answers to any of this. But, I would >like to discuss some of these issues with other Christians so that, in >any case, my understanding and appreciation of God can increase. This reply may not be any more illuminating. As one standing outside your experience, I don't find what you relate to be surprising, but were I to experience it myself, I probably would be surprised. >Regards, >Andrew We read the world wrong | Phil Buckland and say that it deceives us. | psb@eece.ksu.edu Tagore, from Stray Birds |