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From: cwpjr@cbnewse.att.com (clyde.w.jr.phillips)
Newsgroups: comp.lang.forth
Subject: Re: Forth Engines: all types (ucode&direct)
Summary: ...jumpin in with two bits...
Message-ID: <1991Jan2.192137.12922@cbnewse.att.com>
Date: 2 Jan 91 19:21:37 GMT
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I've kept what sparked my responce and deleted...
> 
> I have been calling it " Dream Machine " in house.  I hope you have a smooth
> Practicality is not the virtue in most request.
> 
> the right word ? )  I am actually hopeing someone with better ideas than mine
> would straighten my thinking out on how it may be done.  I can see a broad
> market for a small compact internaly integrated system. There isn't a computer
> on the market that really tempts me at this time. 
> 
> D> Find yourself a Jupiter Ace. 
> 
>  Is that an insult ?  <;' 

Here I'd say one man's dream machine...
	But I think you must define for yourself and us what dream you're
dreaming. From your "compact, internally integrated" description the Jupiter
comes close... 8^) So does the Federal Express handheld and one other
"commercial" handheld that runs a native FORTH ( Casio/??/??? ).
	My thoughts are that My Z-80 ROM FORTH SBC is a dream machine for
slower controls and data logging. But I have other dream machines.
A muilti-FORTH engine running a NEXTSTEP workstation, for one.
My reasoning is that with Display Postscript being based on FORTH
a FORTH engine auta do just fine. But further still I'd like to
see a "written-in-FORTH" clone of the popular OS's ( UNIX/MS-DOG/MACH/etc )
where from the prompt you could use standard dir/ls/cat/etc commands
but all of the flag optional command line arguments would be available
as WORDS!

> 
> 
> D> I would also be very hesitant to base a product on "obsolete" hardware.
> 
> HoHoHo!  You just never had a big enuf promotional buget.
>  [ 145 lines of large megolithic corporation, and their running dogs,
>  bashing  deleted ]
>
This sound suspiciously like the IBM PC! 'n the JR! Can you also see INTEL?
 
> healthy. The devision of chip & platform cultures are unfortunate. Do you know
> where all the Mac Guys are ?

I agree but I just feel that because of a predominance of embedded systems
work on one hand and use as a "high Lvel application language" on the other
hand that it is hard to not choose sides.
	I do think my FORTH powered workstation concept would unify
these camps. And it might even be used by the workstation people
if it provided all they expect.

Cheers! Clyde