Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!sdd.hp.com!think.com!mintaka!spdcc!tauxersvilli!alphalpha!nazgul From: nazgul@alphalpha.com (Kee Hinckley) Newsgroups: comp.org.eff.talk Subject: Re: The city of mind, cyberpunks, and privacy Message-ID: <1991Jan5.182759.11714@alphalpha.com> Date: 5 Jan 91 18:27:59 GMT References: <5201@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM> <13765@milton.u.washington.edu> Organization: asi Lines: 28 In article <13765@milton.u.washington.edu> cyberoid@milton.u.washington.edu (Robert Jacobson) writes: > >Barlow lives in Wyoming. It affects the way one sees things. Mountain >View is another consciousness. I appreciate the well-thought out critique. >However, the "frontier" is yet another consciousness...the American >metaphor for new places. A melding of concepts would be appropriate. >EFF does a pretty good job, since Mitch Kapor is definitely a city type. Metaphors can be dangerous (check out the recent article floating around concerning metaphors of war and our relationship with Iraq). What the City metaphor misses completely, and the Frontier metaphor only gets to a limited extent is the sense of _community_ on the net. It's the kind of thing where a complete stranger comes up and asks you a favor (last night it was a phone call asking for a Usenet feed) and you don't think twice about helping out. That actually probably fits well into the real Frontier, but most people's concept of it has been tainted by too many westerns. Personally, I always think of it as the Electronic Freedom Foundation. -- Alfalfa Software, Inc. | motif-request@alfalfa.com nazgul@alfalfa.com |----------------------------------- 617/646-7703 (voice/fax) | Proline BBS: 617/641-3722 I'm not sure which upsets me more; that people are so unwilling to accept responsibility for their own actions, or that they are so eager to regulate everyone else's.