Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!samsung!rex!uflorida!mailer.cc.fsu.edu!sun13!sun8.scri.fsu.edu From: nall@sun8.scri.fsu.edu (John Nall) Newsgroups: comp.os.minix Subject: Re: Does Minix eat floppy disk drives? Message-ID: <1806@sun13.scri.fsu.edu> Date: 4 Jan 91 18:53:31 GMT Sender: news@sun13.scri.fsu.edu Organization: SCRI, Florida State University Lines: 63 I wrote in an earlier message (paraphrased): > ...for the third time, I have lost a 1.2MB floppy disk drive > on my Minix system. On the other hand, I have never lost one > on my MS-DOS system. > > so...I think...MINIX EATS FLOPPY DISK DRIVES. Several people have sent me comments regarding this message. A couple of them agreed (that is, they had similar problems) and the others wanted more information. Let me first of all say that this was SOMEWHAT put out as a "tongue-in-cheek' message. That is, it seems like a heck of a coincidence, but on the other hand I don't see how the software could make the drive fail. Having said that, let me answer the two questions that were asked: (1) WHAT TYPE OF DRIVE WAS IT? It just said "made in Japan for IBM". But the other two drives were not necessarily the same kind (I don't have them around). Anyway, just a run of the mill 1.2MB drive, half-height. (2) WHAT, EXACTLY, WAS THE PROBLEM? This is difficult for me to answer, because I'm not much of a hardware person. I can only give the symptoms, which are (1) under MS-DOS, it will read and write a 360K disk, but not a 1.2MB disk. Says "data error" when I try and read, and "access denied" when I try and write. (2) It will not format a 1.2MB disk - claims that "Invalid media or Track 0 bad - disk unusable". Under MS-DOS again, of course. With Minix, it will not boot from either my 1.2MB boot disk or a 360K boot disk. With a 360K boot disk, it gets the message "read error. Automatic rebooting" over and over. Trying to boot up a 1.2M Minix boot disk is more interesting. What happens is that it sits there for awhile, with the drive light on, and then just boots from the hard disk as if there were not a floppy disk in the drive at all! (Boots MS-DOS!) A friend of mine ran a diagnostic program on the drive, and it passed ok with a 360K disk, but would not even run the diagnostic with a 1.2M disk. My friend said that the rotation speed was incorrect, and that he could not bring it into line with a screwdriver adjustment. It could only be varied between about 308.29 rpm and 330 rmp, and he said that it should be 360.0 rmp for a 1.2M disk. So perhaps these clues will mean something. In the meantime, since I don't have another drive, I cannot boot up Minix. :-( But when I DO get that sucker booted up, I'm going to go in and modify it so that drive 0 is hardwired to a 5.25 inch 1.2M drive, and drive 1 is hardwired to a 3.5 inch 1.44M drive. Even though logic tells me that Minix can't possibly eat disk drives, hearing those grinding noises while it is figuring out what sort of drive it is always gives me the creeps. -- John W. Nall | Supercomputer Computations Research Institute nall@sun8.scri.fsu.edu | Florida State University, Tallahassee, FL 32306 WB4LOQ (why? I dunno....everyone else seems to be doing it. _._)