Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!usc!julius.cs.uiuc.edu!psuvax1!news From: melling@cs.psu.edu (Michael D Mellinger) Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.misc Subject: Re: Where is the long awaited MS DOS 5.0 ? Message-ID: Date: 4 Jan 91 20:41:35 GMT References: <965@macuni.mqcc.mq.oz> <28851@mimsy.umd.edu> Sender: news@cs.psu.edu (Usenet) Organization: Penn State Computer Science Lines: 36 In-Reply-To: yogurt@mimsy.umd.edu's message of 2 Jan 91 16:03:22 GMT Nntp-Posting-Host: client6.cs.psu.edu In article <28851@mimsy.umd.edu> yogurt@mimsy.umd.edu (Rob Crittenden) writes: Sorry to be picky, but aliasing isn't part of Unix, it's part of csh. And how long has csh been a part of Unix? Besides csh is primitive. Might I recommend BASH or tcsh. Arguing which mneumonic names are better than another will get you nowhere, and if you guys want to continue bickering about something that will never be resolved, could you move it somewhere else, alt.flame? Unix doesn't mean cp, ls, ...,etc. Graphical interfaces will do away with the need for most people to learn these commands. I know many people that use the NeXT who refuse to use the command-line interface of Unix. Do we all know how to click and drag? As for man pages, supposedly the beta-testers of 5.0 say that it will have a moderate help built-in. Anyway, if DOS did their man pages like unix, I don't think I'd want to give up 10+ meg (yes, they take up that much space) just for help! Then delete them. That's what NeXT did on their 105MB systems. Besides, 20MB floppies are about to hit the market, RAM prices have plummeted, and hard disks are getting cheaper. Resources are cheap. What we need an OS that will utilizes them. Not single-tasking 640K crippled OS's with FAT file systems and no memory protection. Everything that MS is trying to do with DOS, Windows and OS/2 has already done, and is available now. Is there anyone that has used both DOS and Unix extensively and who still prefers DOS? These are the people that I would like to hear from. Everyone else is living in ignorance. I have never met anyone that would take DOS over Unix, once they learn Unix(myself included). -Mike