Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!wuarchive!usc!orion.oac.uci.edu!ucivax!gateway From: pays@mars.emse.fr (Paul-Andre Pays) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.iso.x400 Subject: Re: admd policies Message-ID: <9101031058.AA19994@mars.emse.fr> Date: 3 Jan 91 11:07:17 GMT Lines: 38 Approved: usenet@ICS.UCI.EDU X400-Received: by /PRMD=inria/ADMD=atlas/C=fr/; Relayed; 03 Jan 91 12:02:26+0100 X400-Received: by /PRMD=emse/ADMD=atlas/C=fr/; Relayed; 03 Jan 91 11:58:53+0100 > ...it seems to me that the real solution is to abandon the PRMD/ADMD > abstraction completely > > And make life for both users and gateways a lot easier. > >From the user perspective PRMD and ADMD are artificial > entities, conveying no information whatsoever. > And directly or indirectly they have effects that go > beyond what you describe: I refuse to comment again in detail this one which is one more time mixing truth and stupidities. 1. would the RFC devots please let sometime the people in charge of X.400 try to organize their service as well as they can and the service allows 2. Who, except maybe some RFC zelots, has decided that PRMD to PRMD communication was prohibited with X.400? 3. Many important commercial companies are moving to X.400, and like it or not, they insist in establishing connection only with 1 (or a few) ADMD. That is mainly for security purposes. 4. If a community decides to operate common services (this is for example the fax, telex, teletex gateways from ATLAS, or the RFC-987 gateway for our planned R&D admd) then the ADMD seems to be a convenient abstraction for this. 5. Many more ..... I don't pretend that everything is fine with X.400. Obviously we can feel the strong PTT influence, and certainly we have to resist it. But our task, far from unfruitful criticism, is to organize and move in such a way the X.400 mail service is more and more usable (except for those who have decided not to use it). Besides I would suggest the same zelots to take time and do the work that has been done between '84 and '88 to clarify and understand ORnames and ORadresses. Regards, -- PAP