Path: utzoo!censor!geac!torsqnt!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!clyde.concordia.ca!thunder.mcrcim.mcgill.edu!snorkelwacker.mit.edu!apple!decwrl!limbo!taylor From: philip@pescadero.Stanford.EDU (Philip Machanick) Newsgroups: comp.society Subject: The Census Message-ID: <1595@limbo.Intuitive.Com> Date: 7 Jan 91 10:39:03 GMT Sender: taylor@limbo.Intuitive.Com Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University Lines: 22 Approved: taylor@Limbo.Intuitive.Com Of course, this discussion of Lotus Marketplace and its use of census information (and the census itself) is all very much related to computers, because the US Census in 1890 was a major impetus to the development of technologies which were later used in computers. There is a fundamental question here: is inventing technology a good way of solving social problems? Although the computer industry has led to undoubted benefits to society, I don't believe that the ability to conduct a fuller census is necessarily such an advance. Couldn't the population be estimated with equal accuracy by statistical methods? Samples could be taken more often, and very extensive checks could be run for a fraction of the cost of counting the entire population (which in any case seems to be virtually impossible). In particular, the count for disadvantaged groups is likely to be prejudiced by attempting a full count. "Non-disadvantaged" people have permanent addresses, are literate, and don't have any specific reason to be suspicious of authority. So while I agree that there is a trade-off between collective and individual rights, I'm not sure if I buy the argument that a census is essential (maybe it is in terms of the US constitution, but that's a different issue). Philip Machanick