Xref: utzoo comp.sys.amiga:75628 comp.sys.amiga.tech:17373 Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!usc!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!jato!jdickson From: jdickson@jato.jpl.nasa.gov (Jeff Dickson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga,comp.sys.amiga.tech Subject: Re: HD Errors Message-ID: <1991Jan3.230319.3648@jato.jpl.nasa.gov> Date: 3 Jan 91 23:03:19 GMT References: <37492@cup.portal.com> <1991Jan2.190655.15790@jato.jpl.nasa.gov> <1991Jan3.141624.25450@forwiss.uni-passau.de> Reply-To: jdickson@jato.Jpl.Nasa.Gov (Jeff Dickson) Organization: Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, CA Lines: 132 In article <1991Jan3.141624.25450@forwiss.uni-passau.de> hessmann@unipas.fmi.uni-passau.de (Georg Hessmann) writes: >In article <1991Jan2.190655.15790@jato.jpl.nasa.gov> jdickson@jato.Jpl.Nasa.Gov (Jeff Dickson) writes: >|In article <37492@cup.portal.com> thad@cup.portal.com (Thad P Floryan) writes: >|>rg20+@andrew.cmu.edu (Rick Francis Golembiewski) >|>in writes: >|> >|> I was testing out a program that wrote out a file to disk, in any case >|> the program was stuck in an infinate loop, so I was forced to do a >|> reboot, and now I get: Volume HardDisk has a checksum error on disk >|> block 27030 >|> >|> And thus my main partition (92MB) is unable to validate. Is there any >|> way that I can resolve this error without a reformat? >|> [...] >|> >|>With all due sympathy for Rick's problem, the fragility of the Amiga file >|>system is one of the primary reasons I didn't bother renewing my "Developer" >|>status last year and stopped developing commercial software for the Amiga. >|>[The advent of SVR4 on the Amiga will, of course, change my opinion. :-) ] >|> >|>I hope, for everyone's sake, the problems have been fixed in 2.* >| >| I made the mistake one time of rebooting the machine while a berserk >|program wrote non-stop to a file on my hard drive. I had to reformat. But >|then a disk can be corrupted by doing this on most any system. > >First, I don't think so (UN*X fsck deletes the file and all is ok). >Second, if really all other systems has such an bad feature is this no reason >that the Amiga OS have this too. > >| It'd be nice if C= would include some fsck program, but that they >|haven't isn't going to deter my interest from programming the Amiga. The >|meek possibility of this happening stresses the importance of backups. > >But Backup/Restore of a big partition is very anoying. >Yesterday a program open two files and boots the machine. >Now my hard disk is validating. But I won't format my disk! > >I don't have lost any data (I still can read the disk), but backup >format and restore is not very nice. > >Diskdoctor don't help and disksalv need's another disk :-(( > >| Jeff > > Georg. > >-- > hessmann@unipas.fmi.uni-passau.de hessmann@unipas.uucp Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga,comp.sys.amiga.tech Subject: Re: HD Errors Summary: Expires: References: <37492@cup.portal.com> <1991Jan2.190655.15790@jato.jpl.nasa.gov> <1991Jan3.141624.25450@forwiss.uni-passau.de> Sender: Reply-To: jdickson@jato.Jpl.Nasa.Gov (Jeff Dickson) Followup-To: Distribution: Organization: Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, CA Keywords: In article <1991Jan3.141624.25450@forwiss.uni-passau.de> hessmann@unipas.fmi.uni-passau.de (Georg Hessmann) writes: >In article <1991Jan2.190655.15790@jato.jpl.nasa.gov> jdickson@jato.Jpl.Nasa.Gov (Jeff Dickson) writes: >|In article <37492@cup.portal.com> thad@cup.portal.com (Thad P Floryan) writes: >|>rg20+@andrew.cmu.edu (Rick Francis Golembiewski) >|>in writes: >|> >|> I was testing out a program that wrote out a file to disk, in any case >|> the program was stuck in an infinate loop, so I was forced to do a >|> reboot, and now I get: Volume HardDisk has a checksum error on disk >|> block 27030 >|> >|> And thus my main partition (92MB) is unable to validate. Is there any >|> way that I can resolve this error without a reformat? >|> [...] >|> >|>With all due sympathy for Rick's problem, the fragility of the Amiga file >|>system is one of the primary reasons I didn't bother renewing my "Developer" >|>status last year and stopped developing commercial software for the Amiga. >|>[The advent of SVR4 on the Amiga will, of course, change my opinion. :-) ] >|> >|>I hope, for everyone's sake, the problems have been fixed in 2.* >| >| I made the mistake one time of rebooting the machine while a berserk >|program wrote non-stop to a file on my hard drive. I had to reformat. But >|then a disk can be corrupted by doing this on most any system. > >First, I don't think so (UN*X fsck deletes the file and all is ok). fsck pieces the file back together from the hopefully usable infor- mation on the disk. If it can't, it will give you the option of deleting it. fsck isn't magically making the file reappear. >Second, if really all other systems has such an bad feature is this no reason >that the Amiga OS have this too. I've heard that C= plans to limit the possibility of corrupting a file system even more in Ver 2.0. Something about updating the disk so as to keep little of it's static state in RAM. After C= implements this, the Amiga's file system will probably fall into this realm you see all other file systems in. > >| It'd be nice if C= would include some fsck program, but that they >|haven't isn't going to deter my interest from programming the Amiga. The >|meek possibility of this happening stresses the importance of backups. > >But Backup/Restore of a big partition is very anoying. >Yesterday a program open two files and boots the machine. >Now my hard disk is validating. But I won't format my disk! Yeah well. When I said backups - I was speaking of just the stuff you are currently working on and stuff you have worked on in the past. My hard disk going berserk does not tickle me pink, but it doesn't cripple me either. > >I don't have lost any data (I still can read the disk), but backup >format and restore is not very nice. > >Diskdoctor don't help and disksalv need's another disk :-(( I agree - Diskdoctor is real laugh. > >| Jeff > > Georg. > >-- > hessmann@unipas.fmi.uni-passau.de hessmann@unipas.uucp jeff