Xref: utzoo comp.sys.amiga:75701 comp.sys.amiga.tech:17408 Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!swrinde!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!jato!jdickson From: jdickson@jato.jpl.nasa.gov (Jeff Dickson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga,comp.sys.amiga.tech Subject: Re: HD Errors Message-ID: <1991Jan4.191249.14442@jato.jpl.nasa.gov> Date: 4 Jan 91 19:12:49 GMT References: <37492@cup.portal.com> <1991Jan2.190655.15790@jato.jpl.nasa.gov> <1991Jan3.141624.25450@forwiss.uni-passau.de> <1991Jan3.230319.3648@jato.jpl.nasa.gov> <7455@sugar.hackercorp.com> Reply-To: jdickson@jato.Jpl.Nasa.Gov (Jeff Dickson) Organization: Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, CA Lines: 71 In article <7455@sugar.hackercorp.com> peter@sugar.hackercorp.com (Peter da Silva) writes: >In article <1991Jan3.230319.3648@jato.jpl.nasa.gov> jdickson@jato.Jpl.Nasa.Gov (Jeff Dickson) writes: >> I've heard that C= plans to limit the possibility of corrupting a >> file system even more in Ver 2.0. Something about updating the disk so as to >> keep little of it's static state in RAM. After C= implements this, the Amiga's >> file system will probably fall into this realm you see all other file >> systems in. > >That's not good enough... it's still susceptibale to bad blocks, etc. I used >to gripe about the Amiga file system, and everyone kept telling me there must >be something wrong with my drives (so I had 'em serviced, no dice), or that >it's just trackdisk.device (so? They wrote that too), or whatever. But things >would be better on the hard disk. > >So I shut up and waited. > >Now I have a hard disk and I've already had to format a partition because >something in It's Only Rock and Roll (which is just *data!*) busted it... >twice. I've got some 40 UNIX boxes with on the order of 1 Gig of disk on each >at work. I've never had to format a partition because of a software problem. > >The Amiga needs a working FSCK. You can keep less stuff in RAM and reduce >the window in which a bug can bite you quite a bit... at the cost of >performance. But you can still get bitten. No, the Amiga needs a file system >repair utility that can be trusted, and that doesn't force me to keep a >spare partition to salvage the disk structure into. >-- >Peter da Silva. `-_-' >. Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga,comp.sys.amiga.tech Subject: Re: HD Errors Summary: Expires: References: <37492@cup.portal.com> <1991Jan2.190655.15790@jato.jpl.nasa.gov> <1991Jan3.141624.25450@forwiss.uni-passau.de> <1991Jan3.230319.3648@jato.jpl.nasa.gov> <7455@sugar.hackercorp.com> Sender: Reply-To: jdickson@jato.Jpl.Nasa.Gov (Jeff Dickson) Followup-To: Distribution: Organization: Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, CA Keywords: In article <7455@sugar.hackercorp.com> peter@sugar.hackercorp.com (Peter da Silva) writes: >In article <1991Jan3.230319.3648@jato.jpl.nasa.gov> jdickson@jato.Jpl.Nasa.Gov (Jeff Dickson) writes: >> I've heard that C= plans to limit the possibility of corrupting a >> file system even more in Ver 2.0. Something about updating the disk so as to >> keep little of it's static state in RAM. After C= implements this, the Amiga's >> file system will probably fall into this realm you see all other file >> systems in. > >That's not good enough... tough s___! These UNIX boxes you cite their manafactures have been around for a lot longer than the Amiga has - so their products are quite mature. Plus, there is quite a cost difference between the SUN Sparc and an Amiga. I don't know how you can realistically compare the two. As the Amiga matures so will its file system. I was curious about what a Sparc Station would cost. The barebones without a hard disk is $4995. Didn't see the prices for systems with disks...I estimate that they start around $7000. I must be fortunate that I have experienced little of the hard disk woes you have. >-- >Peter da Silva. `-_-' >. Jeff