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From: jesup@cbmvax.commodore.com (Randell Jesup)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.tech
Subject: Re: Help --> How to prevent the visit from the dreaded guru
Keywords: Flip answers are no help
Message-ID: <17133@cbmvax.commodore.com>
Date: 6 Jan 91 00:25:45 GMT
References: <611@caslon.cs.arizona.edu> <1991Jan4.224833.24914@ncsuvx.ncsu.edu> <17130@cbmvax.commodore.com> <7465@sugar.hackercorp.com>
Reply-To: jesup@cbmvax.commodore.com (Randell Jesup)
Organization: Commodore, West Chester, PA
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In article <7465@sugar.hackercorp.com> peter@sugar.hackercorp.com (Peter da Silva) writes:
>In article <17130@cbmvax.commodore.com> jesup@cbmvax.commodore.com (Randell Jesup) writes:
>> 	And Commodore has been working HARD to provide developers with 
>> utilities to make code bug-free when shipped.  Enforcer, Mungwall (aka
>> MemMung and MemWall), io_torture, suck, snoop, drip, scratchr, memoration
>> (those last two from Bill Hawes), angel (traps free mem references with the
>> MMU), etc, etc.
>
>Um, where do you *get* these. I'm a developer, I have the Autodocs, and I have
>Enforcer (it came unannounced on an update disk), but I've never heard of the
>majority of these programs. What should I be ordering?

	Enforcer is available both on the kickfile disks, and on BIX and
perhaps other networks for downloading.  Scratchr and memoration are
definitely on BIX, and io_torture almost certainly is (and/or some devcon
disk), as is MungWall (a combination of MemMung and a "wall" test around
allocations to catch things like strcpy(AllocMem(strlen(str)),str)).  Most of
the rest are things from the software toolkit, either old or revised (though I
don't know when the revised Toolkit will be available - check with CATS).  I
don't know what the story with angel is - it did have a few problems, and
_really_ eats the CPU alive.

Remember, we do official developer support on BIX, not anywhere else - our
messages here are unofficial and on a personal basis.

-- 
Randell Jesup, Keeper of AmigaDos, Commodore Engineering.
{uunet|rutgers}!cbmvax!jesup, jesup@cbmvax.commodore.com  BIX: rjesup  
The compiler runs
Like a swift-flowing river
I wait in silence.  (From "The Zen of Programming")  ;-)