Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rutgers!apple!agate!darkstar!ucscb.UCSC.EDU!unknown From: unknown@ucscb.UCSC.EDU (The Unknown User) Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2 Subject: Re: Hard Drives Message-ID: <10604@darkstar.ucsc.edu> Date: 4 Jan 91 06:40:45 GMT References: <10153@darkstar.ucsc.edu> <1990Dec19.004307.16220@world.std.com> <60242@microsoft.UUCP> Sender: usenet@darkstar.ucsc.edu Distribution: usa Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz; Open Access Computing Lines: 33 In article <60242@microsoft.UUCP> brianw@microsoft.UUCP (Brian WILLOUGHBY) writes: >Actually this whole problem is the Mac's fault. Apple skipped many >of the command protocols in the Mac SCSI driver routines, because >they made a lot of assumptions (such as only one bus master, even >though SCSI supports arbitration). The result is that there are >drives which follow the generic SCSI protocol, and drives that rely >upon the Mac's "SCSI" behavior, particularly the boot phase of the >Macintosh operation. This is going to probably sound bogus because I am telling stuff I heard from someone I know and know few details, but I could probably get them if absolutely necessary.. The Mac, and the Apple II SCSI card, -do- support arbitration. You can hook a hard drive up to both a Mac and a II at the same time.. However, the details are what I heard from someone I know. He worked at Apple for a while, and worked on the Apple // in some way or another. I believe he said Apple had special software or special instructions or something like that (that weren't very complicated), but never released the info to the public.. From what I remember, he said it was pretty easy to do...(make arbitration possible). Take this FOAF ("friend of a friend," a term used a lot on alt.folk- lore.urban) info how you will, but it's true. -- /Apple II(GS) Forever! unknown@ucscb.ucsc.edu MAIL ME FOR INFO ABOUT CHEAP CDs\ \WRITE TO ORIGIN ABOUT ULTIMA VI //e and IIGS! Mail me for addresses, & info. /