Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!sdd.hp.com!usc!julius.cs.uiuc.edu!ux1.cso.uiuc.edu!uxa.cso.uiuc.edu!jb10320 From: jb10320@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Desdinova) Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2 Subject: Re: Computer capabilities Message-ID: <1991Jan5.012240.24878@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> Date: 5 Jan 91 01:22:40 GMT References: <10827@ucrmath.ucr.edu> <1991Jan4.122840.14246@nntp-server.caltech.edu> <10896@ucrmath.ucr.edu> Sender: news@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (News) Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Lines: 33 In article <10896@ucrmath.ucr.edu> rhyde@spahn.ucr.edu (randy hyde) writes: [difficulty of compiling HLL to 6502] >Apple was (emphasis on past tense) feeding Byteworks $50,000/year for the >APW license, I'm impressed that Mike Westerfield put as much as he did into >ORCA/Pascal and ORCA/C (didn't stop me from asking him for C++ though!). >Nonetheless, ORCA/C has a *long* way to go before typical PC developers would >consider using it to port their products to the GS (and speed, both of the >compiler and compiled code, is only part of the problem). > >*** Randy Hyde Even though Orca/C is written in Pascal (MPW Pascal, I presume), it's still fairly fast even compared to a Sun I use at work. The Sun is admittedly several times faster compiling, but then I didn't pay close to $10,000 for my GS, either. I am nonetheless very impressed with what Mike has accomplished (although I still insist he hire some programmers so C can be fixed before the new millenium). And Randy- a good number of the C++ "compilers" out there are nothing more than translators that take C++ and spit out C code. There is no reason such a beast couldn't be written for the GS. Object oriented stuff isn't hard to do at all- even without a special language that supports it, one can program in an OOP style very effectively. This is, BTW, an attempt to get one of you reading this motivated. -- Jawaid Bazyar | Being is Mathematics Senior/Computer Engineering | Love is Chemistry jb10320@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu | Sex is Physics Apple II Forever! | Babies are engineering