Path: utzoo!censor!geac!torsqnt!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!clyde.concordia.ca!thunder.mcrcim.mcgill.edu!snorkelwacker.mit.edu!bloom-beacon!eru!hagbard!sunic!mcsun!hp4nl!nikhefh!t68 From: t68@nikhefh.nikhef.nl (Jos Vermaseren) Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st Subject: Re: TT Message-ID: <1109@nikhefh.nikhef.nl> Date: 7 Jan 91 13:31:10 GMT References: <6719@crash.cts.com> Sender: t68@nikhef.nl (Jos Vermaseren) Reply-To: t68@nikhefh.nikhef.nl (Jos Vermaseren) Organization: Nikhef-H, Amsterdam (the Netherlands). Lines: 46 "How do people think about the TT?" I think it is definitely a step forwards, but whether it is for everyone is a matter of what you do with computers. If you need your computer just for typing in text files that you take to your work for further processing you can save yourself the extra money. At the moment the price seems to be coming down. My guess is that they are selling many more than they had feared so the enlarged production gives lower prices. At the moment one can buy them already for 25% less than the price that Atari announced in october. (Here in Holland). This starts making it an excellent buy. Of course the exact pricelevel is irrelevant because one would have to compare it with the local prices of other computers, not with dollars, marks, guilders, francs, pounds etc. The computer is (if equally properly tuned) for my purposes faster by a factor 4. This assumes running in TT memory with the cache on. For a program like FORM each of these make a factor 1.5 difference. Also compilations with Turbo C go faster by a factor 4. This brings us to the software: Much of the software runs and much doesn't run. The earliest versions of Turbo-C would mishandle the 68020 option badly. There is a newer version that is much better, but the printf doesn't work right. But it improves. Shell programs are also rather problematic. Many programs assume fixed screen sizes (and sometimes addresses). On the other hand it is possible to run in ST mode. With the color monitor one can run in ST-Low, ST-medium, ST-high, TT-Low and TT-medium mode. In ST-high one has just a very fast ST and many of the programs that break in the TT modes will run. For developers this is very fine. One can try all resolutions easily. Atari Benelux tried to get some TT's to developers quickly, just to have as soon as possible some improved software. So I think that it is a step forward, but people who had to save their money for a long time to buy an ST won't be able to buy a TT for quite a while. On the other hand: My first ST was about 3300 guilders (currently $2000) and now they cost 1300 guilders (<$800). Note that only the ratio is relevant. Jos Vermaseren