Xref: utzoo unix-pc.general:7115 comp.sys.att:11407 Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rutgers!att!pacbell.com!mips!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!julius.cs.uiuc.edu!apple!bionet!hayes.ims.alaska.edu!floyd From: floyd@ims.alaska.edu (Floyd Davidson) Newsgroups: unix-pc.general,comp.sys.att Subject: Re: Brownouts, shorts, explosions and the unix pc. Message-ID: <1991Jan7.124138.19055@ims.alaska.edu> Date: 7 Jan 91 12:41:38 GMT References: <1991Jan5.045917.7018@shibaya.lonestar.org> <134@limbic.ssdl.com> <1991Jan7.084738.7441@yenta.alb.nm.us> Organization: University of Alaska, Institute of Marine Science Lines: 77 In article <1991Jan7.084738.7441@yenta.alb.nm.us> dt@yenta.alb.nm.us (David B. Thomas) writes: >gil@limbic.ssdl.com (Gil Kloepfer Jr.) writes: > >>The best protection from lightning is unplugging your machine from >>the power **AND** phone lines. Good advice. >My friend Mark (no credentials at all) reports that tying your cords >in knots actually helps protect the equipment against lightning. >He said he sustained an actual hit to his power lines, and the >cord caught fire, but the equipment, which was plugged in, was >unharmed. First off, what is a direct hit? Well a real direct hit involves on the order of 100,000 to 300,000 amps of current at its peak. NOTHING will protect you from that. And it would melt even the power line, never mind the telphone line. Actually what we all get hit with is the current induced indirectly into power or telephone lines. The spectrum (frequency range) for the energy that comes into your house on the power or tel lines depends on how good a transmission line and how far the current has to travel. By the time it gets to your equipment there probably has been quite a bit of rolloff in the upper frequency ranges due to the simple fact that neither power or tel lines are designed to be used at anything other than relatively low frequencies. Not that higher frequency components won't be there, just that they will have been attenuated to some degree that will vary depending on a number of things, including the distance involved. There is a difference whether it comes from down the road a couple miles or if it is in your backyard. > >My first thought was to balk....but consider this: > >The knots form inductors which have a fairly large reactance >at rf. Lightning has lots of rf energy (switch on a radio >during a thunderstorm to prove this!). Two problems: 1) it really is a very low reactance, and 2) the higher ranges of rf energy may or may not be what comes down the line. One tight turn in your tel line modem cord does not have even the inductance of say a half mile of cable. Several turns doesn't either. >So... a knot looks to lightning like an inductor with non- >negligible inductance, and it will absorb some of the energy >before the equipment gets any. > >To be honest, I haven't taken any of this seriously enough >to have tied all my cords in knots yet, but hey --- it's >probably worth a try. I'd trust it no less than a box >that costs $1000 and says "lightning eliminator" on it! :-) > All it would do is very slightly attenuate what has already been attenuated the most. Three or four turns might affect frequencies above say 100 Mhz a little and above 200 Mhz a lot. I'm not sure what range is most common, or most damaging. But I'm sure it is lower than that. If you do want to do something along these lines, wrap a couple turns through a high Q toriodal core. I don't know if it will help with lightning protection, but it sure will help cut the rf radiation from your computer down! Floyd -- Floyd L. Davidson floyd@ims.alaska.edu Salcha, AK 99714 paycheck connection to Alascom, Inc. When I speak for them, one of us will be *out* of business in a hurry.