Path: utzoo!censor!geac!torsqnt!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!samsung!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!pacific.mps.ohio-state.edu!linac!att!news.cs.indiana.edu!msi.umn.edu!noc.MR.NET!gacvx2.gac.edu!hhdist From: postmaster.DUNG_BEETLE@gateway.qm.apple.com (postmaster) Newsgroups: comp.sys.handhelds Subject: Steve Winters :Unknown QM u Message-ID: <9101040849.AA18370@internal.apple.com> Date: 4 Jan 91 05:52:58 GMT Lines: 46 To: handhelds@gac.edu Return-path: To: handhelds@gac.edu Mail*Link#170# Steve Winters :Unknown QM u Received: by gateway.qm.apple.com; 4 Jan 91 00:52:55 Received: from apple.com by goofy.apple.com with SMTP (5.61/25-eef) id AA18327; Fri, 4 Jan 91 00:48:31 -0800 for Steve_Winters.PERIPH_PROJ@gateway.qm.apple.com Received: from gacvx2.gac.edu by apple.com with SMTP (5.61/25-eef) id AA10782; Sat, 22 Dec 90 14:14:02 -0800 for Steve_Winters.PERIPH_PROJ@gateway.qm.apple.com Date: Sat, 22 Dec 1990 16:06 CST From: handhelds@gac.edu Subject: Re: 48 archive crash Sender: NEWSMGR@gacvx2.gac.edu To: HANDHELDS@gacvx2.gac.edu Errors-To: postmaster@gac.edu Reply-To: handhelds@gac.edu Message-Id: <2F56D2F400000136@gacvx2.gac.edu> X-Vms-To: IN%"HANDHELDS@GACVX2.GAC.EDU" Comments: Forwarded from COMP.SYS.HANDHELDS by GACVX2.GAC.EDU Relay-Version: VMS News - V6.0-1 14/11/90 VAX/VMS V5.4; site gacvx2.gac.edu Path: gacvx2.gac.edu!noc.MR.NET!uc!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!usc!jarthur!nntp-server.caltech.edu!eeyore!madler Newsgroups: comp.sys.handhelds Subject: Re: 48 archive crash Message-ID: <1990Dec22.204041.21521@nntp-server.caltech.edu> From: madler@eeyore.caltech.edu (Mark Adler) Date: 22 Dec 90 20:40:41 GMT Sender: news@nntp-server.caltech.edu References: <27727374:1483.1comp.sys.handhelds;1@hpcvbbs.UUCP> Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena Nntp-Posting-Host: eeyore.caltech.edu Lines: 13 My rev A would die about 1/4 of the time doing archives until Bill Wickes told me that turning off the clock would cure the problem. I then added that to my backup program, so my archives are now *always* done with the clock off. I emphasize this because once, and only once, since I did that, an archive failed in precisely the same way. I estimate I had done about 30 or 40 archives in that time. I would conclude then that turning off the clock drastically reduces the probability of the that failure, but does not eliminate it completely. Mark Adler madler@pooh.caltech.edu