Path: utzoo!censor!geac!torsqnt!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!uunet!zephyr.ens.tek.com!tektronix!reed!barry From: barry@reed.UUCP (Barry Smith) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps Subject: Re: Textures 1.3 and CM/PS Fonts 0.9: Several Steps in the Wrong Summary: author's reply, Blue Sky Research, long Keywords: fonts PostScript installation Message-ID: <15840@reed.UUCP> Date: 3 Jan 91 09:09:28 GMT References: <55@sierra.STANFORD.EDU> Reply-To: barry@reed.UUCP (Barry Smith) Organization: Blue Sky Research, Portland OR Lines: 73 \address Anthony Siegman Department of Electrical Engineering Stanford University Stanford, CA 94305-4085 \salute Dear Professor Siegman, \body Thank you, sincerely, for your comments on our Computer Modern PostScript version 0.9 release. Although I cannot agree with some of your opinions (and by this letter hope to sway some of these), I appreciate very much the candor and directness of your words. I'd like to reply directly to some of your statements, both from your letter of 18 December and your posting of 24 December, in arbitrary order: \quote{should have been held off the market until it could be finished and done right.} It {\it is} version 0.9, and I believe we have been clear that we at Blue Sky Research do not consider the package to meet our own standards of ``publication quality.'' We do believe that the package offers very substantial capabilities not available elsewhere, and that by offering it now in its current form we provide better service to our customers than by withholding these capabilities while we improve the packaging. We feel the product is easily of sufficient quality to warrant our unconditional guarantee. To date, one purchaser has returned the product, because it did not improve his print quality (and we do not make any advertisement that it will). \quote{installation of this package ranges from headache to nightmare.} I agree! (Although I've had much worse of both.) This product has generated {\it many} more telephone calls for installation assistance than any product we've offered. A surprising fact, to me, is that the tedious step of deleting and/or copying fonts has {\it not} caused problems, but the trivial step of copying fonts to the System Folder has been a major source of difficulties! \quote{Do I really have to put them in the System Folder? All individually?} Yes. You do. {\it Don't blame us.} That's the way the Apple System Software and the Adobe Type Manager work. The Computer Modern PostScript fonts have to work with other software---that's their purpose. The installation notes do suggest using Suitcase or Master Juggler. \quote{The Fonts menu in my other applications is already nearly a full screen long.} My own font menu, in those applications that create an unrestricted font menu, is four screens long, on a large monitor. (Font menus are {\it not} a good method for organizing a large collection of fonts, and who would urge that we should therefore restrict our available fonts?) It's fair to say that we did not recognize, before this release, the change in perspective this package of fonts would require for some of our customers (those not already working with a large set of Macintosh fonts). Unfortunately, the current version of Adobe Type Reunion (a menu manager that attempts to create hierarchies in font menus) fails to make any sense of the Computer Modern font names. We're talking with Adobe about this, with a greater sense of urgency. \quote{Fonts are messy, muddy and mysterious! You gotta make this font stuff simpler and easier!} Agreed. We {\it will} take the time, in the version 1.0 release, to more thoroughly explain the installation process and cover more options. You should understand, however, that in several ways our hands are tied: we don't make the system software standards, but we do make great efforts to follow them. \quote{I love Textures} Thanks, it's good to hear from you! \close Sincerely, Barry Smith Blue Sky Research