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From: Jim.Lynch@f444.n161.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Jim Lynch)
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Subject: Re: C++ Programming Under Mpw - Advice So
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> Subj: C++ PROGRAMMING UNDER MPW - ADVICE SOUGHT
> From: kt@msor.msor (Keith Tizzard)
> Date: 7 Dec 90 17:17:56 GMT
> Organization: MSOR Department, Exeter University, UK
> Message-ID: <1082@exua.exeter.ac.uk>
> Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.programmer
> 
> I am trying to use C++ under MPW and would welcome some
> advice and help.  The C++ language creates no problem
> since I have used it in other environments.  The problem
> comes when I try to find out about the MacApp classes and
> their methods.  
> 
> Where do I look for a clear description?  
> 
> Do I need to acquire and read all the volumes of
> Inside Macintosh?

******** YES!YES!YES! ***********
Actually, I got them one at a time.  Start with Vol. I and devour it --
especially the chapters on User Interface Guidelines, Memory Intro and
Assembly language.  Also, get Vol. II at the same time and read up on the
Memory Manager.

> Is there a class browser to enable me to find out, quickly
> and easily what classes are available to inherit and what
> member functions they contain?
> 
> Basically I am comfortable with obejct orientated programming
> and C++ but am new to programming the Mac.  Any advice about
> how to proceed would be most welcome.
> 
> In the APDAlog I note the publications:
> 
> C++ Programming with MacApp by David Wilson, Larry Rosenstein
>   and Dan Shafer
> 
> Elements of C++ Macintosh Programming by Dan Weston
> 
> Has anybody read and used these?  Are they helpful for the novice?
> 
> Let me illustrate my difficulty.
> 
> The following code is taken from ShapesApp.cp, one of
> the files in the distributed C++ examples which come
> with MPW.  Reading the code is difficult and the thought
> of creating new code is awe inspiring.  Within the class
> constructors and member functions very little appears to
> be object orientated.
> 
> In the constructor TShapesApp, shown below, are SetMenuBar(),
> DisposHandle(), DrawMenuBar() ... external functions (i.e. C)
> or are they inherited member functions?  Why does it not say:
> 
> menuBar->Set()      or maybe   menuBar.Set()   and
> menuBar->DisposeHandle
> 
> /* remainder deleted */

These calls are in the Macintosh ROM which is not object oriented.
Having Inside Mac around will help you determine which calls are where.
     -Jim

> 
> -- 
> Keith Tizzard
> MSOR Dept, University of Exeter, Streatham Court, EXETER EX4 4PU, UK
> tel: (+44) 392 264463    email: kt@msor.exeter.ac.uk     kt@msor.UUCP 
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