Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rutgers!usc!samsung!uakari.primate.wisc.edu!erb1!erb1.engr.wisc.edu!simmons From: simmons@nucst4.neep.wisc.edu (kim h simmons) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next Subject: Re: X11 for the NeXTstation Message-ID: Date: 5 Jan 91 22:23:17 GMT References: <1991Jan3.135628.78@drycas.club.cc.cmu.edu> <49737@sequent.UUCP> Sender: news@erb1.engr.wisc.edu Organization: Univ. of Wisconsin,Madison., NEEP Department Lines: 44 In-reply-to: roc@sequent.UUCP's message of 4 Jan 91 21:10:54 GMT >>In article <49737@sequent.UUCP> roc@sequent.UUCP (Ron Christian) writes: >> >> Path: erb1!uakari.primate.wisc.edu!sdd.hp.com!wuarchive!mit-eddie!uw-beaver!zephyr.ens.tek.com!tektronix!sequent!roc >> From: roc@sequent.UUCP (Ron Christian) >> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next >> Date: 4 Jan 91 21:10:54 GMT >> References: <1991Jan3.135628.78@drycas.club.cc.cmu.edu> >> Reply-To: roc@crg8.UUCP (Ron Christian) >> Organization: Sequent Computer Systems, Inc >> Lines: 11 >> >> In article <1991Jan3.135628.78@drycas.club.cc.cmu.edu> ddj@zardoz.club.cc.cmu.edu (Doug DeJulio) writes: >> >I tried XNeXT on my NeXTStation out of perversity and it didn't work. >> >I was actually kind-of glad about it... >> >> I've never really understood this mind set. XNeXT is just another >> application that runs under NeXT Step... It's like being morally >> indignant about the Terminal application. >> Ron I think that the long term survival of NeXT probably depends on them having some kind of support for X11. NeXT is the only major workstation manufacturer that does not provide support for X11. As Sun and Dec and everyone else found out (much to their dismay) users (and in particular the people who buy hundreds of workstations at a time) want standards. Sun's primary windowing system is now X based. They didn't do this because they wanted to, they did it (for better or worse) in order to survive. One of these standards is X11. It is an FIP (Federal Information Processing) standard as well. Support for X11 is very important in being able to compete with Dec and Sun (something i think that NeXT can do) for these big contracts. On the other hand, maybe NeXT is not interested in this market. I really don't care about X11 on my NeXT at home, but at work, NeXT has already lost some orders to Sun and Dec because they do not come with X11. On the other hand, i could be wrong. What do you think? simmons@nucst4.neep.wisc.edu -- =============================================================================== Internet: simmons@nucst4.neep.wisc.edu Othernet: simmons@hoofers.lake.mendota --- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- --- According to the HitchHikers guide to the galaxy, the one thing we *cannot* afford to have is a sense of perspective. ===============================================================================