Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!wuarchive!uunet!auspex!guy From: guy@auspex.auspex.com (Guy Harris) Newsgroups: comp.windows.x Subject: Re: DESQview/X Message-ID: <5060@auspex.auspex.com> Date: 5 Jan 91 09:22:11 GMT References: <3940@corpane.UUCP> <1990Dec23.170514.7631@alphalpha.com> Organization: Auspex Systems, Santa Clara Lines: 37 >I give. What's the "standard" OPEN LOOK toolkit? You mention XView >elsewhere, so that seems to leave "OPEN LOOK", "OLIT", and "NDE". Or >did I miss one? Yeah, OI or whatever Solbourne's C++ thingie is called. :-) Of course, I think they intend to make that a mostly- or all-Motif toolkit as well (so much for "the toolkit is the look and feel"). (Dunno if OI is fully OL or not, actually.) I tend to doubt it's NDE, as the product is called "DESQview/X", not "DESQview/X/NeWS". The DESQview/X blurb I got with some magazine says about the Xol toolkit, "This toolkit and its OPEN LOOK window manager is supplied and promoted by AT&T", which means it's almost certainly AT&T's Xt-based toolkit. Whether that's OPEN LOOK, OLIT, XT+, the OPEN LOOK toolkit, or Roland the Headless Thomson Gunner is left as an exercise to the reader and to AT&T's Marketoons(TM) or whoever there is in charge of making the names up. (*I* wish they'd follow Sun's lead and call the bloody thing OLIT, or fall back on XT+; calling it OPEN LOOK is somewhat annoying as OPEN LOOK also refers to the L&F.) I'm also curious what the window manager is that they show on page 14 of the brochure; it claims to be "the Tab window manager", which they later say is "formerly Tom's [window manager']", but the window decoration doesn't look like any flavor of "twm" *I've* ever seen. It's not their own DWM window manager (of which they say, in boldface, "One of its most important characteristics is that it is under 50K in size;" they also note the sizes of other window managers that I infer come with DESQview/X, with "mwm" being 650K, "twm" being 300K, and the OPEN LOOK window manager - which is AT&T's, not the Crucible/Sun one that comes with XView and Open Windows, and has window, workspace, and file manager clients - being 1.5MB).