Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rutgers!cs.utexas.edu!uunet!munnari.oz.au!metro!grivel!gara!rjacobs From: rjacobs@gara.une.oz.au ( ABRI) Newsgroups: rec.birds Subject: Re: INDOOR - Novice questions about pet birds Message-ID: <5120@gara.une.oz.au> Date: 2 Jan 91 05:54:06 GMT Organization: University of New England, Armidale, Australia Lines: 27 The discussion about fasting a bird for 3 days is an interesting one, because it invokes a knowledge of avian physiology and behaviour which is lacking in many of us. I know very little about cockatoos, but the vet who advised food to be with held from the cockatoo may have been right or wrong. He is a vet with experience with raptors and it is common to remove food from medium size to large size birds of prey for several days in order to get them to come to the fist. My first Harris Hawk refused to eat for 7 days before she would eat off my fist. Although, this is quite worrying for a beginner, raptors will rarely starve themselves to death. In the case of the cockatoo (as in the case of raptors) I guess the length of period that it is safe to fast depends on the birds condition, weight, metabolism, room temperature, health etc. In general smaller birds need to eat more regularly than larger ones and therefore, smaller birds can't be fasted as long as larger birds. Since the cockatoo had food available, I guess it never got hungry enough to try the newer food. I didn't see the original posting, so I don't know what was done to introduce the new food. But it may have been better to introduce the new food slowly by adding with the old food and/or letting the bird eat in close proximity to a bird who did eat the new food. So I can't still can't pass an opinion whether the vet was right or wrong. A 15% loss in body weight by the cockatoo that was ill would be worrying, but since the bird was ill the loss in weight was much higher than you'd expect in a healthy sedentry cockatoo.