Path: utzoo!censor!geac!torsqnt!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!casbah.acns.nwu.edu!squishy From: squishy@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Shishin Yamada) Newsgroups: sci.electronics Subject: Re: 12V car --> 3V cd player Summary: Reply Keywords: CD, cd, cd player, car, power supply Message-ID: <2382@casbah.acns.nwu.edu> Date: 1 Jan 91 15:07:20 GMT References: <1990Dec31.081024.16910@yenta.alb.nm.us> <2374@casbah.acns.nwu.edu> <%BS^BG*@rpi.edu> Organization: Northwestern University Lines: 39 In article <%BS^BG*@rpi.edu> wrf@mab.ecse.rpi.edu (Wm Randolph Franklin) writes: >In article <2374@casbah.acns.nwu.edu> squishy@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Shishin Yamada) writes: >> >>+12V Fuse L1 1 _________ 2 D1 D2 D3 >>O-------O~O---UUUUU---+------+---| |-----+---->|--->|--->|----O +3V >> +| | | 7805 | | >> === === |_______| === C3 >>Ground | C1 | C2 |3 | >>O---------------------+------+-------+---------+--------------------O Ground >> >> Where, L1 is say 1 uH, C1 is say 2200uF, C2 is 0.33uF, C3 is 0.1uF, >>D1 D2 and D3 are silicon rectifying diodes (like 1N4001). All components >>should be rated at least to 16 volts. > >What does C2 do since it's so much smaller than C1? My guess it that it >also has a smaller inductance and so traps hi freqs better. Is this >right? Thanks. > You hit the nose right on the button! C1 is large to filter out very slow changes in the power supply (like smoothing out power ripples in typical AC to DC converters). C2 is for filtering out high frequencies that are typical of cars. C2 is required since the DC regulator is far from the power source (battery). It helps to filter out high frequencies from both sides of the 7805. By the way, I only wrote down 0.33uF and 0.1uF because they are typical values. 0.33uF was given in the chip data book, and 0.1uF is common when using digital circuits (notably TTL) to block spikes. These higher frequencies are typically from the ignition coil as it fires the spark plugs. Finally, C3 is also there for high frquencies developed in the right hand side of the circuit. It is common practice with any digital circuits to place 0.1uF caps around the power supply as close as possible to logic chips (especially TTL), because they help to stabilize the power supply during changes of the logic gate's state. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Shishin "Squish" Yamada * squishy @ casbah.acns.nwu.edu Electrical Engineering (class of '91) * Northwestern University ----------------------------------------------------------------------