Xref: utzoo sci.energy:3701 sci.electronics:16674 sci.physics:16191 Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rutgers!att!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!pt.cs.cmu.edu!gandalf.cs.cmu.edu!lindsay From: lindsay@gandalf.cs.cmu.edu (Donald Lindsay) Newsgroups: sci.energy,sci.electronics,sci.physics Subject: Re: solar cells Message-ID: <11515@pt.cs.cmu.edu> Date: 4 Jan 91 16:53:46 GMT References: <1991Jan3.072059.20842@loop.uucp> Organization: Carnegie-Mellon University, CS/RI Lines: 29 In article <1991Jan3.072059.20842@loop.uucp> keithl@loop.uucp (Keith Lofstrom;;;628-3645) writes: >Most solar cells are made with processes that are similar to those >used to make integrated circuits. A big IC fab turns out on the >order of a million wafers a year, and turns out tens of thousands of >gallons of liquid toxic waste and hundreds of thousands of cubic feet >of gaseous waste in the process. >Scaled to nuclear plant size, that's millions of >gallons of waste per year for the same amount of power. I detect a humongous assumption, namely, that cell fab and chip fab use the same amount of processing per area. Some ICs are built with more than 20 processing steps (ie layers). I can't imagine how a mass-market solar cell could be that intricate or various. Chips also have about three orders of magnitude more pins/area. Chips also require the highest purity of materials, and their yield depends on very stringent definitions of "working". Even a reject solar cell is likely to worth using. You are also making the big, fat assumption that those "most" solar cells have anything to do with the way we will make things in the future. Glad to hear you have such faith in technological progress. The US government agreed with you: that's why they axed the solar R&D funding, a decade-odd ago. I can't express politely what I think of their foresight. Am I to think better of yours? -- Don D.C.Lindsay .. temporarily at Carnegie Mellon Robotics