Path: utzoo!censor!geac!torsqnt!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!usc!ucla-cs!news From: bywater!arnor!dgreen@uunet.UU.NET Newsgroups: sci.med.aids Subject: Re: KS research Message-ID: <1991Jan7.171245.17639@cs.ucla.edu> Date: 7 Jan 91 16:07:20 GMT References: <1991Jan5.145313.11925@cs.ucla.edu> Sender: bywater!arnor!news@uunet.UU.NET (NNTP News Poster) Reply-To: bywater!arnor!cs.ucla.edu!dgreen@uunet.UU.NET Organization: UCLA & IBM T.J.Watson Research Center Lines: 32 Approved: phil@wubios.wustl.edu Note: non-commercial reproduction. Nntp-Posting-Host: squid.cs.ucla.edu Archive-Number: 2875 The.Bird@f38.n135.z1.fidonet.org (The "Bird") writes: |> For those of you who believe we are now in "superhuman research and testing |> modes", I have learned that that is pure horseshit. There are a total of 5 |> AIDS patients at the NIH being tested for various items. My friend is the only |> patient currently undergoing this particular phase I trial. I question your accusation, since I visit the NIH every couple of months and see many AIDS patients there every time I go. The NIH is now trying to localize drug trials, rather than ship everyone to Bethesda. Perhaps this is the phenomenon you are observing. When making such accusations, it is essential that you be extremely clear about what you mean. "5 AIDS patients" being tested for what? KS drugs? HIV drugs? Do you mean "5 *hospitalized* AIDS patients"? If so, that comes as no surprise, because most of NIH's work is going toward those who are infected, but whose immune systems are not completely destroyed. I believe this is a proper approach, to save/extend the maximum number of lives per unit cost. However, I am disturbed by the slowness of NIH as well. The AIDS vaccine trial which I have been involved with for 2.5 years has been extremely slow, ostensibly to avoid risks to its experimental subjects. However, having seen several friends die, I would be happy to add more risk to myself to see fewer people die of AIDS. It is quite infuriating. Medical practitioners involved with AIDS seem to lose their sense of "the big picture" to the individual concerns of their experimental subjects, or the day-to-day issues of grant pursuit. ____ \ /Dan Greening IBM T.J.Watson Research Center NY (914) 784-7861 \/ dgreen@cs.ucla.edu Yorktown Heights, NY 10598-0704 CA (213) 825-2266