Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rutgers!att!cbnews!cbnews!military From: ron@hpfcso.fc.hp.com (Ron Miller) Newsgroups: sci.military Subject: Re: re: Electric warship propulsion Message-ID: <1991Jan7.051427.8642@cbnews.att.com> Date: 7 Jan 91 05:14:27 GMT References: <1990Dec17.051438.29694@cbnews.att.com> Sender: military@cbnews.att.com (William B. Thacker) Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA Lines: 43 Approved: military@att.att.com From: ron@hpfcso.fc.hp.com (Ron Miller) > > From: sun!portal!cup.portal.com!Eric_S_Klien > The nuke subs have no electric batteries and we have no diesel subs. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > Eric Klien This is flat wrong if you are referring to US submarines. ("we" who?) Nuke boats DO have a very large lead-acid battery. Picture about 148 cells 1'x1'x6' in series. It is essentially the same as one half of a WWII diesel boats battery. (It is primarily an emergency/auxiliary power source to be used for reactor startup or to ride out delays while getting a diesel generator online.) It is correct to say, however, that MAIN propulsion is not via the battery. However, that does not exclude other auxiliary forms of propulsion. I am not certain if there are any diesel boats left in commission. Rumors in the early '80's were that there were a few used for SEAL training. If you still doubt the battery, I have some "battery well T shirts" left I can show you-- big acid holes :-)) In general though, electric drive still requires a turbine generator to produce electricity on a nuke boat. One could suppose that electric drive might be more "efficient" but it might not be as light or as reliable as reduction gears from the steam turbine. Indeed, if one is operating a nuclear power plant, it is hard to be as quiet as a diesel boat on the battery unless the reactor is totally shutdown, cooled down, depressurized and one is DIW (dead in the water) that is. Ron Miller ex-Lt USN USS CINCINNATTI SSN-693 (former electrical officer, DCA, EMO, QA officer, Reactor Controls officer etc)