Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!clyde.concordia.ca!thunder.mcrcim.mcgill.edu!snorkelwacker.mit.edu!apple!usc!orion.oac.uci.edu!ucivax!gateway From: ag1v+@andrew.cmu.EDU ("Andrea B. Gansley-Ortiz") Newsgroups: soc.feminism Subject: Re: MS letter (WARNING:strong words will be used) Message-ID: Date: 7 Jan 91 06:51:52 GMT References: <8020@uwm.edu>, <1990Dec4.100625.1344@vax5.cit.cornell.edu> Lines: 49 Approved: tittle@ics.uci.edu Nntp-Posting-Host: zola.ics.uci.edu [SOAPBOX ON] Just a little tidbit of information. The selective service throws away any cards turned in by women. I no longer have the phone number that I called to ask them, but I'm sure I can get it again. Or one could look in the phone book. Whether people believe it or not, it is discriminatory against both women and men to have only one sex being drafted. It is insulting to both sexes to tell one (You're not worth a great deal to us, so we'll send you to be killed) and the other (Oh, you just wouldn't be able to cut it out there.) It is everyone's right in this country to be treated equally in regards to the professional world (and the military is a profession.) To say that women should not be treated with equal respect in the military as men is, IMO ludicrous. This will just drive what little progress has been made in the military backwards. It is the right of every citizen to be able to serve their country. And IMO, it is the responsibility of each citizen of this country to serve it when called upon to do so. This doesn't mean you agree with the policies, or that you condone the behavior of the government. It only means that you are being loyal and trying to do your part. Others will definitely disagree with this opinion. I am a volunteer member of the military (at this point in time that is redundant.) I know many other PEOPLE who are also volunteers. If the military does not now discriminate against women entering the military, neither should they keep them safe from the draft. I consider this a feminist point of view. Others might not. If you've ever been in the military, AS A WOMAN, you know how difficult it is to have people treat you as a fellow soldier. Military men, in general, have a hard time looking at women as soldiers who can do just a good a job as them. I've been told by many men (who haven't seen combat) that they don't want women in combat and they don't think it will work. I happen to differ with thier opinion. I also have happened to change people's minds through my hard work and willingness to be part of the team. I may not be able to lift the same things in the same way, but I've always been able to put on my thinking cap and find another way to do it. Just because a man and a woman achieve a goal differently doesn't mean that the finished products aren't equal to eachother. Nor are one set of means better than another by the mere fact that one method was done by a man and another by a woman. And this is where people really need to look for the equality. Men and women are not physically equal, but it doesn't mean that they can't do the same physical tasks because there is always more than one way to do things. [SOAPBOX OFF] Andrea Gansley-Ortiz