Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!usc!jarthur!ucivax!gateway From: uunet!optilink!cramer@ncar.ucar.EDU (Clayton Cramer) Newsgroups: soc.feminism Subject: Re: Woman/Man Space Message-ID: <5161@optilink.UUCP> Date: 7 Jan 91 07:06:08 GMT References: Organization: Optilink Corporation, Petaluma, CA Lines: 22 Approved: tittle@ics.uci.edu Nntp-Posting-Host: zola.ics.uci.edu In article , sdk91@campus.swarthmore.edu writes: > > *WARNING. I AM NOT GOING TO BE NICE.* > > I get tired of folks who claim that women-only groups are > _necessarily_ wrong. Tell me. Would you take a bunch of emotionally > vulnerable men who are survivors of abuse by their mothers and fathers > and hold an open meeting to work through pain, grief, and trauma while > they are in the _presence of their abusers_?!? No. But your assumption that ANY man is an "abuser" of women is a sexist remark. Let's try your analogy with race. How about white-only groups for victims of crime? (Blacks are dispro- portionately involved in crime, therefore any black is a criminal, etc. -- the typical collectivist reasoning that you have chosen for males). -- Clayton E. Cramer {pyramid,pixar,tekbspa}!optilink!cramer Gun Control: The belief that the government, with its great wisdom and moral superiority, can be trusted with a monopoly on deadly force. You must be kidding! No company would hold opinions like mine!