Path: utzoo!censor!geac!torsqnt!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!clyde.concordia.ca!thunder.mcrcim.mcgill.edu!snorkelwacker.mit.edu!apple!mips!dimacs.rutgers.edu!aramis.rutgers.edu!athos.rutgers.edu!christian From: farkas@eng.sun.com (Frank Farkas) Newsgroups: soc.religion.christian Subject: Re: Mormons against the Bible! Message-ID: Date: 7 Jan 91 03:51:07 GMT Sender: hedrick@athos.rutgers.edu Lines: 49 Approved: christian@aramis.rutgers.edu In article , jclark%sdcc6@ucsd.edu (John Clark) writes: >In article farkas@eng.sun.com (Frank Farkas) writes: >+ >+This is what I call rationalization. There is nothing at all which tells >+us that Pharaoh hardened his own heart. I take a more honest approach and >+say that this is a corruption of the Biblical text. The proof lies in the >+Bible itself, what it teaches about God. > >What does it teach? Where Adam and Eve were 'fully' aware of the >ramifications of taking the fruit of the tree of knowledge of good >and evil? If so then why didn't they 'know' the evil that would >come. The Genesis story give no instructions on sacrificial methods but >Able's sacrifice was 'good' and Cain's not. That David could kill a >friend to obtain the object of his desire, be called righteous, but Uza >was killed in an instant in an attempt to right the ark of the covanent. > >That Judah could consort with what he presumed to be a prostitute, >and still be in the lineage of David and eventually Jesus. > >The deity seems some what inconsisent to me. If He does, it is because our lack of understanding. However, let me respond regarding Adam and Eve. It is 100% true what you said, that is that Adam and Eve were not fully aware of what they have done. This is because they have lacked the knowledge of good and evil. One may ask the question, did they know that it was good to keep God's commendment? The answer is no! Did they know that death was bad? The answer is no! Could they had any judgement at all, if they couldn't tell between good and evil? The answer is, once again no! So, what did they knew? They knew that there were consequences if they were going to it of the tree of good and evil, but they didn't know if it the consequences were good or bad. It is true that when Adam and Eve ate from the tree, they have broken the commandment they have received. But it was different then we who do know from good and evil disobey God. Nevertheless, they still had a choice, and they did exercise their free agency. With brotherly love, Frank > >-- > >John Clark >jclark@ucsd.edu