Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!bonnie.concordia.ca!thunder.mcrcim.mcgill.edu!snorkelwacker.mit.edu!apple!usc!julius.cs.uiuc.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!casbah.acns.nwu.edu!accuvax.nwu.edu!nucsrl!telecom-request From: USERGS8C@mts.rpi.edu Newsgroups: comp.dcom.telecom Subject: Re: More on BBSs and Phone Rates Message-ID: <15869@accuvax.nwu.edu> Date: 7 Jan 91 20:49:34 GMT Sender: news@accuvax.nwu.edu Organization: TELECOM Digest Lines: 52 Approved: Telecom@eecs.nwu.edu X-Submissions-To: telecom@eecs.nwu.edu X-Administrivia-To: telecom-request@eecs.nwu.edu X-Telecom-Digest: Volume 11, Issue 14, Message 3 of 7 In my post made 1/4/91, Pat replies: > If someone attaches a computer to a phone line and charges money to > access it and gain information from it, why is he different than > Compuserve, which attaches computers to phone lines and charges money > to access their system and gain information from them? People who run a BBS as a hobby don't charge a fee for the service. As I stated before, some sysops ask for small donations. These donations are not mandatory, but you get some extra goodie if you do [like access to the game room, or extended prime-time access]. But I fail to see how this would indicate a business. However, a BBS that charges a mandatory fee for access in another creature entirely, and should be treated as such [and I won't discuss that particular can of worms here :) ] I think that hobbyist BBSs are special. They're a place to talk about different subjects, participate in friendly chats, argue about contro- versial issues, down/upload files, and meet people in an atmosphere where what you say, not who you are, is important. It doesn't matter who you are, if you are handicapped, a minority, or whatever. Most people do not have access to the Internet/Bitnet/Usenet, and Compu$erve and GEnie are only good for some things, therefore many people rely on the local BBS. To quote Mike Riddle's paper, BBSs are now the local equivalent of the political pamphlet of the 1700s and are just as important. A BBS is not a business; it is a hobby that involves a great deal of dedication, both financial and personal. So why should sysops have to take it on the chin for providing a free forum for other people to communicate with each other and express their own opinions at the sysop's expense? If a BBS had to be classified as a business, who would run one? We'd end up with the lowest common denominator, just like television and even more boring. Aimee Tweedie usergs8c@mts.rpi.edu Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, New York [Moderator's Note: What about people who run *other kinds* of not-for-profit phone lines, i.e. rape crisis, domestic violence, suicide talk lines, dial-a-prayer, dial-a-conspiracy theory (312-731-1100) and similar? These are most often one or two person operations, run by people who enjoy what they are doing and who are trying to serve the community out of goodwill. They pay business rates for their service, and it comes from their own pocket and/or whatever trivial donations people send them. What rates would you have them pay? Why are BBS sysops so special and so different when it comes to trying to serve the community through a sense of charity and goodwill? What about the TTY-to-voice translators serving deaf people? PAT]