Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!wuarchive!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!casbah.acns.nwu.edu!accuvax.nwu.edu!nucsrl!telecom-request From: cmylod@oracle.nl (Colum Mylod) Newsgroups: comp.dcom.telecom Subject: Re: Notes on the Phone System in Holland Message-ID: <15958@accuvax.nwu.edu> Date: 10 Jan 91 13:55:14 GMT Sender: news@accuvax.nwu.edu Reply-To: Colum Mylod Organization: Oracle Europe Lines: 48 Approved: Telecom@eecs.nwu.edu X-Submissions-To: telecom@eecs.nwu.edu X-Administrivia-To: telecom-request@eecs.nwu.edu X-Telecom-Digest: Volume 11, Issue 23, Message 2 of 6 In article <15886@accuvax.nwu.edu> hansm@cs.kun.nl writes in response to the article from <15809@accuvax.nwu.edu>: >When they announced the change, PTT Telecom referred to an >``international agreement'' to make 00- the prefix for international >calls. Can anybody tell me what sort of agreement they meant? Is >this an EC directive, a CCITT recommendation, or what? It's an EC-recommendation. The idea is to try to standardize some codes across Europe. The European PTTs are not obliged to standardize on 00 for IDD, but as most countries use 00 already, some of the others are changing. The Dutch PTT will eventually, once current 00 users are moved. Telecom Eireann use 16 for IDD but 00 now also works in the Dublin area, though they haven't announced it. >>001x- Used to be other services, now disconnected, and/or moved to the >> 06-041x range. >Exception: 0011 (emergencies) moved to 06-11. 0011 was the emergency number only in the Brabant and Gelderland provinces. This was a test to see if the one uniform number would be an improvement on the myriad collection of numbers that were in use and which few people knew in their own area, and no-one knew outside their own area. It was considered a success, so they opted for a national simple number, and 0611 was it. However the EC has decided on 112 for a standard emergency number, which would be inconvient in Holland as local numbers begin with "1". > Like a regular non-local call, it costs 1 unit per 45 seconds. And what a shame this is. Profit made from misery. It's free in most countries, so saving someone rummaging in pockets for a coin to call from public phones. The PTT's excuse is charging reduces false calls. And can I just say that all Amsterdam numbers (+31-20 code) will be seven-digit from 1 March 1991. Prepend 6 to six-digit numbers beginning with "2". Colum Mylod cmylod@oracle.nl The Netherlands Above is IMHO [Moderator's Note: Emergency calls (911 in the USA) are *not* free. Usually the charge is automatically reversed to the receiver of the call, i.e. the emergency agency, much like an 800 call, but without the additional digits dialed. *Someone* always pays for 911 calls: telco does not handle them for free. PAT]