Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!bonnie.concordia.ca!uunet!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!casbah.acns.nwu.edu!accuvax.nwu.edu!nucsrl!telecom-request From: chris@com50.c2s.mn.org (Chris Johnson) Newsgroups: comp.dcom.telecom Subject: Re: Keeping the Faith in Technology Message-ID: <15982@accuvax.nwu.edu> Date: 10 Jan 91 16:23:03 GMT Sender: news@accuvax.nwu.edu Organization: Com Squared Systems, Inc. Lines: 92 Approved: Telecom@eecs.nwu.edu X-Submissions-To: telecom@eecs.nwu.edu X-Administrivia-To: telecom-request@eecs.nwu.edu X-Telecom-Digest: Volume 11, Issue 25, Message 9 of 9 In article <15827@accuvax.nwu.edu> cyberoid@milton.u.washington.edu (Robert Jacobson) writes: >Technology is easier to keep faith in when one has a hand in its >design and development. When, as is most often the case in Western >societies, technology is invented by large, seemingly faceless >corporations or government agencies and foisted on the general public >for better or worse, "faith" is an understandably rare commodity. I >appreciate Mr. Lucky's optimism and self-confidence, but his examples >of technology that "works" -- BART as a remedy for transportation >congestion, and educational technology as a remedy for poor scholastic >performance among students -- are insupportable. BART has complicated >the Bay Area transportation situation, not fixed it. And educational ... >democratic. I am surprised that the general public is as tolerant as >it is of we technologists' experiments with its world. While this is straying from the topic of telecommunications, and into the politics of technology and more, I can't sit by and let Mr. Jacobson remain unanswered in his indictment of technologists. First and foremost, it might be that techonology is invented by seemingly faceless corporations and technologists within, but it is the business end of such organizations that "foist" those products upon the public. In other words, the fact that every community has a video-rental store as a "result" of the invention of the VCR, or that Compact Disks have virtually eliminated the vinyl LP, has a lot less to do with the invention of the technology and a lot more to do with marketing, advertising, and business ideas for making money in general. If record companies did not see a great potential profit to be made, and did not push the Compact Disk in the market place, you can bet it would be relegated to the rare ranks of the high-end audio affecionado. For example, just where is Digital Audio Tape (DAT) these days? It's invented. It works. You can even buy it! But the record companies are all opposed to it because they are greedy and can't see a way to make a good profit from it. As a result, it's a pretty rare thing. I have two compact disk players. I have zero DAT decks. This only reinforces the idea that technological innovations are only tools, and it's the use to which they are put which makes all the difference. I also take issue with Mr. Jacobson's remarks about such things as BART. He claims it complicates the Bay Area transportation situation. Perhaps. But if BART disappeared tomorrow, the transportation situation would be a whole hell of a lot more complicated. It has a huge daily ridership. And from my experience, the Bay Area has one of the better mass-transit systems in the country, precisely because of the integration and variety of types: busses, trains, and BART. I'm not as aware of the circumstances in Washington D.C. (having left that area just before the Metro opened), but everything I've ever heard about the system there was praise of the highest sort, even from people who were regular riders of other subway systems in the U.S. and even abroad. It's also my opinion that Mr. Jacobson's remarks about educational uses of technology are taking problems out of their context. The educational institutions of this country have a lot problems, and most of them are sociological in nature and very interrelated. Whether or not technology will be able to help solve those problems in a dramatic way, versus in a minor way (which I am sure they will) is yet to be seen. Lack of use of available technology in schools hardly points to a fault in the technology itself, however. I'd say a pretty strong case could be made that we have one of the best telephone systems in the world, also because of the technology that built it. Perhaps Mr. Jacobson is not as much a luddite as my response is making him sound. But I want to bring the focus on technology issues to where the decisions should be and are presently being made as to whether the new inventions bring the society good. Those places are political (public policies, eg. do we want to encourage nationwide networks?) and business (marketing and selling, eg. how can we use this new invention to make money, versus how will selling this new invention affect society?). Technologists frequently have ideas in mind for uses of their inventions that are nothing like how the general public ends up seeing them. Should technologists stop creating new things unless they have that control? Or just stop in general, for fear they may be misused or have adverse affects (particulary since the societal affects are impossible to predict)? I don't think so. ...Chris Johnson chris@c2s.mn.org ..uunet!bungia!com50!chris Com Squared Systems, Inc. St. Paul, MN USA +1 612 452 9522