Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!uwm.edu!linac!att!bu.edu!telecom-request From: PCOEN@drew.bitnet (Paul Coen) Newsgroups: comp.dcom.telecom Subject: Re: More on BBSs and Phone Rates Message-ID: <72211@bu.edu.bu.edu> Date: 13 Jan 91 19:34:00 GMT Sender: news@bu.edu.bu.edu Organization: TELECOM Digest Lines: 49 Approved: Telecom@eecs.nwu.edu X-Submissions-To: telecom@eecs.nwu.edu X-Administrivia-To: telecom-request@eecs.nwu.edu X-Telecom-Digest: Volume 11, Issue 34, Message 2 of 8 I just had to respond to the people who were claiming that BBSs were no different than 900 numbers. Remember -- the people who are operating 900 numbers are usually at least breaking even on their costs, due to the per-minute charge on the 900 number. 976 numbers also generate revenue, I believe. The "hobby BBS" does not. The comment about amount of usage is a semi-valid one. Think about it -- even if you pay-per-use, that isn't going to affect incoming calls. Since the call is being made by the other party, not the BBS, there really isn't any easy way to apply measured service to BBS lines. As far as home-run, local, non-revenue-generating dial a prayer or other lines are concerned, why should they pay extra either? Is the purpose of the business rate to charge for more use, or is it so the phone company gets a cut of any profit you make via your use of the telephone? If you're not making money, or operating as a loss, I really can't see the justification. The fact that when you get a residential line, last time I had NJ Bell service anyway, you don't get anything telling you how much you can use your phone should mean that you can stay on the line 24 hours a day talking to your friends in the local calling area. Why should it be any different when you hook a computer up to it? The average BBS probably doesn't use any more phone time (and maybe less) than a family with several teen-agers. The average BBS isn't costing the local phone company extra money, really. As long as all the local circuits aren't busy, who cares what the rest of the lines are doing? That's like computer center managers that say that running games on a minicomputer late at night (when the computer would be otherwise idle) is COSTING them money. There's a difference between "cost" and "non-revenue- generating," I think. The only cost I can potentially see is that the phone companies are actually having to maintain line quality, rather than letting it degrade to the point where data communications are difficult. Just so you know where I stand, I'm a co-sysop on a BBS owned by Drew University. The Drew Underground has six NJ Bell lines, which we pay business rates on because they're located in University-owned buildings. (Of course, getting NJ Bell to repair problems is like trying to squeeze oil out of a piece of rock, but that's another story). Fortunatly, the $$ comes from a University budget, not us. The preceeding may not even be my opinions, never mind Drew U.'s Paul Coen Academic Computer Center Drew University