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From: rjc@cs.ucla.edu (Robert Collins)
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Subject: Re: GNU g++ not ready for anything at all. (WRONG!)
Keywords: Just say no.
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Date: 15 Jan 91 01:43:35 GMT
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In article <16008@ogicse.ogi.edu> maxwebb@ogicse.ogi.edu (Max G. Webb) writes:
>This may not be an appropriate message; oh well...

My experience with g++ has been very different.

>Just as a data point for everybody out there deciding whether
>to use g++: Last semester I wrote a neural net simulator in g++;
>I already had some experience in c++ (AT&Ts version), and in
>other OOPL's, and have been a programmer since '78.

I have used g++ for a couple of years now, and have spewed out
over 100,000 lines of g++ code.

>My impression was that the bugginess of the implementation has
>*DOUBLED* my implementation time. Recent releases (37.1) only
>seem to add to my work, by failing to compile code that used to work.

While I have encountered numerous bugs in various versions of
g++, my coding time was rarely affected very much.  In general,
Michael's support has been incredible.  In critical cases, he
has sent me a patch within a day (more than once in about 15
minutes---at 2am!).  Also, Michael was very responsive to my
critical need for named return values.

Max, did you report the bugs that you encountered?  If not, I have
no sympathy for you, and I hope everyone ignores your whining.
If you did, what kind of response did you get?  How did it compare
to the response to cfront bug reports?  Why didn't you switch to
cfront?

>So if you value your time (which it will waste), or your hair (which
>you will tear out), or your cool (which you will lose),
>go somewhere else. g++ will bring you mucho pain.

I am a very satisfied g++ customer.  It has not wasted my time,
I have a full head of hair (a little gray, but that is due to the
women in my life--past and present, not g++ :-).  It has not
caused me to lose my cool, and has been surprising painless.

>Max

rob collins
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