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From: muir@cae780.csi.com (David Muir Sharnoff)
Newsgroups: comp.lang.perl
Subject: Re: COPS in perl?
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Date: 9 Jan 91 05:15:26 GMT
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Reply-To: muir@cae780.csi.com (David Muir Sharnoff)
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In article <26411:Jan900:15:5991@kramden.acf.nyu.edu> brnstnd@kramden.acf.nyu.edu (Dan Bernstein) flames:
>Ya know, wouldn't it be neat if people could use comp.lang.c as
>comp.prog.help-wanted.c? I've got lots of great programming projects (in
>C, of course) that I want to farm out to people, [etc]

Dan, 

I hate to say it, but from my point-of-view you are detracting from the 
quality of comp.lang.perl.  Comp.lang.perl started out as a mailing list 
of perl entheusiasts.  It retains that flavor to a great extent.  I like 
that flavor and my expectation is that many (if not most) other readers also
do.

Your comments do have merit in a certain philosophical sense, but 
I can't go along with your point of view because the things you complain
about just aren't real problems for me.  For example, your latest
complaint is about Dan Farmer's request for cops-coders; his posting
had merit because:
	1. It was about something interesting - cops;
	2. He posted it where it was most likely to get a positive response;
	3. I felt that I was part of his intended audience.

Comp.lang.perl is the "Perl Users Group".  Quit trying to cast it into
a mold that doesn't fit.  Comp.lang.perl is not comp.lang.c; "perl users"
need a very different kind of support that "C users."  This stems from
several factors:
	1. Perl is stilling finding its place in the world;
	2. Up until a few days ago, there were no books on how to program;
	   in perl;
	3. There are far fewer perl programmers than C programmers;
	4. The perl users form a small communinty.

Please try to join the signal; you are a major contributor to the noise.
(Ya, I know, this article doesn't count as signal either.)

-Dave
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