Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!sdd.hp.com!usc!orion.oac.uci.edu!ucivax!gateway From: Allan.Cargille@pilot.cs.wisc.edu (Allan Cargille) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.iso.x400 Subject: Re: Is X.400 good for international mail? Message-ID: <910109131718*@MHS> Date: 9 Jan 91 19:26:14 GMT References: <9101081841.AA04675@polya.Eng.Sun.COM> Lines: 52 Approved: usenet@ICS.UCI.EDU X400-Originator: Allan.Cargille@pilot.cs.wisc.edu Content-Identifier: 910109131718 In-Reply-To: <9101081841.AA04675@polya.Eng.Sun.COM > Priority: Urgent X400-Received: by mta pilot.cs.wisc.edu in /PRMD=xnren/ADMD= /C=us/; Relayed; Wed, 9 Jan 1991 13:17:35 +0000 X400-Received: by /PRMD=xnren/ADMD= /C=us/; Relayed; Wed, 9 Jan 1991 12:17:20 +0000 X400-Content-Type: P2-1984 (2) X400-MTS-Identifier: [/PRMD=xnren/ADMD= /C=us/;cargille663448640.39xnren.us] } From: "Peter Vanderbilt" } Subject: Re: Is X.400 good for international mail? } > First of all, most of the owners have never *heard* of Object Identifiers } > and could care less, so it's going to be a long time if we wait for them. } > Our customers need the identifers *now*. So we're just going to have to } > do it ourselves somehow. } } Unfortunately, you may be right. It doesn't really matter where an OID } (object identifier) comes from as long as it's well defined. However, } I am concerned about lack of communication about particular OID } definitions. If you send a Lotus spreadsheet to me, I want you to be } using an OID that my system knows about. } } Perhaps announcing your OID definition on this list may be enough. } } Better would be some kind of living document available on the net that } was a repository for body part definitions. Anybody have any ideas on } how to make this happen? Conceivably X.500 could be used to map OIDs } to human readable descriptions. Hello all, I think that it could be a useful step forward to establish an interim OID registry. However, isn't it correct that such an OID registry must be globally known, and otherwise it is worthless? By "globally known" I mean known or accessible in the worldwide community of X.400 implmentors. Therefore I do not think that simply announcing it on this list would work, or even maintaining a living document on the net. Instead I think that some global concensus much be achieved for the use of OIDs, even ones that have not been formally registered by the owner of the data item or product. What about having the new IETF OSI X.400 Operations working group and the RARE MHS Project (in Europe) maintain a joint listing of adopted OIDs? Would it be better to have them jointly defined by the NIST X.400 Interoperability working group, and its peer groups in Europe and Asia? I'd like to see more discussion on this, because I think that we could make positive progress in this area. Cheers, allan -- Allan Cargille Computer Sciences Department Associate Researcher University of Wisconsin-Madison Fax +1 (608) 262-9777 1210 West Dayton Street Voice +1 (608) 262-5084 Madison, WI 53706 USA cargille@cs.wisc.edu BITNET: cargille%cs.wisc.edu@INTERBIT X.400 C=us; ADMD= ; PRMD=xnren; O=uw-madison; OU=cs; S=cargille