Path: utzoo!utgpu!watserv1!watmath!att!pacbell.com!mips!sdd.hp.com!ucsd!ucbvax!FTP.COM!jbvb From: jbvb@FTP.COM ("James B. Van Bokkelen") Newsgroups: comp.protocols.tcp-ip.ibmpc Subject: Re: NCSA + Novell Message-ID: <9101081603.AA26905@ftp.com> Date: 8 Jan 91 16:03:49 GMT Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Reply-To: jbvb@ftp.com Organization: The Internet Lines: 23 We are using a native (i.e., non-CMU/PD) IPX module talking directly to a 3C501. We are also using NCSA Telnet with the direct-to-the-card config (i.e., again, no PD). After carefully explaining to a colleague why, due to contention for the H/W IRQ used by the network card, he wouldn't be able to get Novell and NCSA Telnet to work simultaneously without a PD and the appropriate IPX-for-the-PD module, he proceeded to ignore this "wisdom" and load the Novell stack followed by the NCSA Telnet - works like a charm, apparently. ... Hence, the question "Why does this work?? The magic word is "3C501". First, it has very little on-board state (compared to something that uses an 8390 or 82586 LAN controller chip). This makes it much more likely that the two drivers initialize it the same way. Second, the card exists in various versions, and some (at least) had quirks (to be charitable). If a 3C501 acts odd, or you don't see traffic for a while, the first reflex action taken is to reset it. In our "Compatibility Sheet", we note that PC/TCP has this kind of "cold war" coexistence with many kinds of software when using the 3C501... James B. VanBokkelen 26 Princess St., Wakefield, MA 01880 FTP Software Inc. voice: (617) 246-0900 fax: (617) 246-0901