Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!usc!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!ames!vsi1!zorch!mykes From: mykes@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG (Mike Schwartz) Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga Subject: Re: Commodore Research and Development. Message-ID: <1991Jan8.065444.7684@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG> Date: 8 Jan 91 06:54:44 GMT References: <1991Jan3.003449.1@ccvax.iastate.edu> <422.2782fdf3@vger.nsu.edu> Organization: SF-Bay Public-Access Unix Lines: 49 Commodore seems to have its hands full with just making 2.0 work and getting their CD ROM machine out the door. I am still waiting for my 2.0 Enhancer package at a nearby Amiga dealer, and Commodore announced that they would ship the CD ROM machine in Sept. 1990 (at Summer CES '90) with a hundred titles and hundreds more by 1991. Not that I am criticizing Commodore here, just that they really do have their work cut out for them. The CD ROM machine looks like it will be great, especially if CBM can get the price down to near Laser Disk player prices. Actually, laserdisk machines aren't exactly setting the world on fire, saleswise, so maybe they should be trying to get the price down to half what they announced it to be so it would be a real consumer item instead of a hobbyist device. After all, CBM did well with a low priced C64, which was more of an appliance than a computer to most of its owners. It is not that CBM is not trying, they are getting the Amiga 500 into better distribution channels (like Sears) and they could compete with and possibly be better than all of the new 16-bit video game machines if they made a version of the Amiga 500 with a cartridge port, no keyboard, and a video game operating system for $200. What commodore really needs to do is to finish the products they have under development and to get the big players (Microsoft, Lotus, Ashton Tate, etc.) to provide real business software for the machine so they can compete with IBM and Mac. If you look at things in perspective, Apple is having just as much of a problem getting system 7.0 out the door as CBM is 2.0. If the software base gave business users a reason to buy the machine, the Amiga could sell 10's of millions. If there were 10 Million Amigas, a laptop would make a lot of sense, but who needs a $2000 laptop to play video games (albeit the best games around). I say, just give CBM a chance, things look good for the future, even though development is slow. It just takes time to do things right. Even though the CD ROM machine is not out, I am glad that they did not make the same mistake with it that they did with the Amiga in '85. You see, they shipped the Amiga before it was finished, and we all know how long it has taken for it to gain a decent reputation. I just hope that the CD ROM machine works and works well. Who wants a 4x sampling CD player that Gurus a lot? Another thing to consider is that CBM does have some fine engineers and it does show in the Amiga 3000 and Amiga Unix. The Amiga is still far ahead of the competition in many areas and it is advancing. It is kind of fun to watch the other computer manufacturers copying the things that the Amiga does best and not doing as good a job at it. Keep it up CBM, but let's try to be a little more timely.