Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rutgers!usc!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!think.com!mintaka!wookumz.ai.mit.edu!rjc From: rjc@wookumz.ai.mit.edu (Ray Cromwell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy Subject: Re: AMIGA Message-ID: <1991Jan10.164423.23644@mintaka.lcs.mit.edu> Date: 10 Jan 91 16:44:23 GMT References: <1991Jan10.082327.7378@rice.edu> <1991Jan10.095304.16900@mintaka.lcs.mit.edu> <1991Jan10.151816.13893@rice.edu> Sender: daemon@mintaka.lcs.mit.edu (Lucifer Maleficius) Distribution: usa Organization: None Lines: 84 In article <1991Jan10.151816.13893@rice.edu> jsd@pygmy.rice.edu (Shawn Joel Dube) writes: >In article <1991Jan10.095304.16900@mintaka.lcs.mit.edu>, rjc@wookumz.ai.mit.edu (Ray Cromwell) writes: >|> > >|> >|> >|> >|> DREAM ON. NOTHING BEATS THE AMIGA. NOTHING! NeXT? It doesn't cook >|> >|> spaghetti so it's no good! >|> > >|> >That`s the worst you can say about the NeXT???? >|> > >|> >|> Ok, its slow (030 & Display Postscript) colorless (with $$$) and >|> doesn't have any games. Why compare Next with the Amiga, the >|> Amiga is low-end (majority) and a PC. The NeXT is a multiuser workstation, >|> and compared to a Sun Sparc, it loses. I would buy a Sun before >|> I bought the NeXT. >|> > >First, I was the not the one who started comparing NeXT and Amigas. >Second, The NeXT is not a multiuser workstation. It may have mutli-tasking >but I don't think many places are using it as a "multiuser" workstation. >Third, compared to a Sparc, it loses but only when it comes to speed. I Sparc >doesn't have all of the support hardware that the NeXT has (for example, the >digital signal processor or whatever its called). Also, the NeXT has a better >user interface (compared to a Sun w/ XWindows or SunTools) and it costs less. It also wastes a good deal of CPU time on that user interface. (for instance copying the entire contents of a window around when dragging, not to mention display postscript) The NeXT (slab) is not very expandible. The DSP in the NeXT is SLOW, and integer only. Even further, the NeXT doesn't seem to share its DSP effectively. On the Amiga, the blitter chip is shared nicely. Its possible to 'OwnBlitter()' but it won't lock it completely. On the NeXT you'll usually see 'DSP Already in Use' I Keep seeing people harp about the fact that the NeXT has a DSP, but I have not seen it used much, unlike the Amiga in which a huge majority of software shares the custom chips effectively. >|> >|> Seriously. NeXT's with 040's are vaporware until the 040 starts >|> >|> shipping in large quantities >|> > >|> >By that your saying that it is the 040 that is vaporware. The reason >|> >that the NeXT 040 are not shipping in large quantities is because Motorola >|> >isn't shipping the 040's in high quantity thereby, from what you say, >|> >making the 040 vaporware. The 050 is vaporware, the 040 is not. >|> >|> Its vapor because you cannot reliaby get your hands on any. I can >|> buy an Amiga very easy, it make takes weeks or months to ge an Amiga. > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > An Amiga is reliaby available > although it can take months to get?? Sorry, thate was a mistake, it was supposed to read 'Takes months to get a NeXT' The NeXT is very backlogged, I priced them once, and everyone told me 'We have none in stock, and it may be a month or 2 before we get any.' vapor. OB >Seriously, take a poll and I think that just about everyone WILL NOT consider >the NeXT 040 vaporware, esp. the people who have them. > >|> >|> GET REAL! GET AN AMIGA! >|> >-- > >Get real yourself and consider the merits of *ALL* computers >and not just yours. Lighten up D00D, I was being sarcastic when I started my post. YOUR the person who got upset when I said the NeXT couldn't cook spaghetti, it also can't butter bread, but thats another problem. The Amiga can do TOAST however. :-) As for merits of owning other computers, there are NONE. You still don't get it: NOTHING BEATS THE AMIGA! NOTHING! Crays are crap, RS/6000's? Sludge! >-- >rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr >r ___ _ "...but then there was the r >r /__ | \ possibility that they were r >r ___/hawn |__\ube LaRouche democrats which, of r >r jsd@owlnet.rice.edu course, were better off dead." r >rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr -- Amiga. There should be a law requiring you to own them! Call your congresscritter and petition today!