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From: mmuegel@camdev.comm.mot.com	 (Mike "Happy" Muegel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apollo
Subject: Re: How about using ACLs? versus Unix rights?
Keywords: ACL, Unix rights, not compatible?
Message-ID: <324@camdev.comm.mot.com?>
Date: 10 Jan 91 03:50:48 GMT
References: <1030@eba.eb.ele.tue.nl>
Organization: /etc/organization
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In article <1030@eba.eb.ele.tue.nl> wjw@eba.eb.ele.tue.nl (Willem Jan Withagen) writes:
>I've got this directory /usr/local/include which has some extra ACL's
>appended. Now it funnctions as I expect it would, so there's nno problem
>there. 
>However the Unix righs do not really make sense. Why do they have rwx for
>the world whilest they do not have it? (:-)) 

The "world" field that is displayed using /bin/ls shows the logical OR of
the rights given to world and the exetnded entry mask.

>Now you can do chmod 775 to the directory, but then the extended mask gets
>reset to r-x. 
>As a consequence the user wjw.staff.none is not allowed to create anything
>in /usr/local/include.
>Despite the fact that user 'wjw' is also member of the group 'local'!

Once you apply chmod, the extended ACLs, while not blown away, are
not usable. Now about the group stuff, are you using BSD or SYS5?
More information is needed to debug this problem (e.g. what does
the user's /etc/environ and ~/.environ look like). I am sure you just need
to set the SYSTYPE and ENVIRONMENT variables in either of the above mentioned
files and all will work fine if your are using BSD and have the registry set
to use project lists for the group "local."

-Mike
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