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From: rat@madnix.UUCP (David Douthitt)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: ProTERM (was:Re: GS as a IIe)
Message-ID: <1683@madnix.UUCP>
Date: 8 Jan 91 00:19:35 GMT
References: <318@generic.UUCP> <91005.221046AABENSON@MTUS5.BITNET> <10668@darkstar.ucsc.edu>
Reply-To: rat@madnix.UUCP (David Douthitt)
Organization: ARP Software, Madison, WI
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unknown@ucscb.UCSC.EDU (The Unknown User) writes:
| 
| In article <91005.221046AABENSON@MTUS5.BITNET> AABENSON@MTUS5.BITNET writes:
| >You use ProTERM?  How can you use that bug-infested program?  It's just
| >completely aweful if you want to use it on a regular basis!

I agree.

| 	ProTERM 2.2 has never crashed on me, and 2.1 only crashed very
| very rarely...

Seemed to me it always wanted to crash after you went thru [I]nstall.
I never had any telecom program crash as much as that one - even if it
was only 3-6 times.  If I have to pay money for something, I expect it
to NEVER go into the monitor.

| 	I've never seen any program that comes anywhere near ProTERM...
| The closest is Ascii Express... And that's way behind ProTERM (even though in
| a few places Ascii Express is more powerful than AE)...

Gee.  That's what I use.

| 	I would just like to know what you don't like about it..

For me, it's several things:

	1. It crashes.
	2. IT DOES NOT USE INTERRUPTS!!  (this means it loses characters)
	3. The scripting is abominable and weak.
	4. The procedure for uploads and downloads is contorted and twisted.
	   When I do a ZModem download on my IBM, I don't have to do ANYTHING.
	   In ProTerm, I have to wade thru about 6 to 9 menus.  UUUGLLEEEEEEE.

	Probably the major thing is the premise behind all those menus.
	The idea is to HIDE the modem from you - (QUICK!  what's the modem
	access command?).  Gee, we users don't know DIDDLEY-SQUAT... gotta
	protect us morons from using the modem directy - heaven FORBID
	we should figure out what we are doing.

	(Sorry for the only half tongue-in-cheek tirade).  Apple did it some
	years ago before they were basically forced to come clean.
	IBM did it and failed when everyone else came out with tech manuals.

	When I use a program (like a telecom) I don't want it to bug me
	with menus unless I ASK for them.

	[Soapbox off]

And THAT's the way it was.  Good day!

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