Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!bonnie.concordia.ca!uunet!samsung!uakari.primate.wisc.edu!sdd.hp.com!ucsd!sdcc6!crl!jonah From: jonah@crl.ucsd.edu (Jonah Stich) Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2 Subject: Re: info for the masses Message-ID: <15603@sdcc6.ucsd.edu> Date: 14 Jan 91 23:07:37 GMT References: <1991Jan14.005429.1@gacvx1.gac.edu> Sender: news@sdcc6.ucsd.edu Organization: University of California, San Diego Lines: 72 Nntp-Posting-Host: crl.ucsd.edu In article <1991Jan14.005429.1@gacvx1.gac.edu> youngdahl@gacvx1.gac.edu writes: >Hello everyone... since I'm new to this discussion, I'll introduce myself: > >My name is Ben Youngdahl, and I'm a student of Comp. Sci. at Gustavus Adolphus >College in Minnesota. I've been programming on Apple II's since 1982 when I >owned a II+. Now I'm equipted with a IIgs and a strong will to create >something new for this fantastic computer. Okay, you've made my day! :) >I have a great interest in the 3200 "mode" of the IIgs. I understand the basic >ideas behind tweaking out the extra colors, but the Orca/C code I have written >to date performs below my expectations. I have to wonder: is there any source >code for the 3200 mode available? Even the source to a simple display program >would be all I need to get my programming going in the right direction. Okay, first off you're not going to be able to do it straight from C. You'll need to link in an ASM procedure that'll display the picture. I wrote some source to do this and uploaded it to America OnLine.... >It strikes me as funny that the IIgs has such fantastic demos out for it, >showing border animation, multiple pallettes on screen, better-than-apple-tools >sound, etc. ... and yet there is really no clear source of getting information >on how this is done. What you gotta do is RUN, don't walk, and get yourself any/all of the following you don't already have: * A modem * An AOL account * A subscription to 8/16-Central * A GEnie account if you still have some money left. On AOL (and GEnie) there are HUGE source code libraries. There are people who know how to do what you want to do, or at least now how to go about doing it. I recommend AOL above GEnie, simply because GEnie is hard to use. How hard? Well, I've been using computers for about 11 years now, and I STILL can't use GEnie.... AOL, on the other hand, is God's gift to Apple users. I LOVE it! Oh, BTW, I agree that some of the FTA stuff is better than Apple's tools, but PLEASE use the tools and follow the rules!! If you want to help the GS, write something USEFUL, that works with the standard GS interface. Scott Gentry is building a list of things people would like to see written. If you can't get through to him, herer are two to chew on: Mathematica GS A GS ray tracer >Since Apple refuses to enhance the IIgs by providing information on how to >access the "tweaks" of border-animation, 3200 color graphics, and quick >scrolling techniques they essentially have stripped the developing community of >any "punch" behind their products. Their apears to be simply *NO* clear source >of information on these topics beyond word-of-mouth... 8/16-Central is an EXCELLENT magazine for programming the GS. Add an online service to that, and you're set. Every question you have can be answered. I even hear there's some source on AOL that shows how to do border animation and the like. I KNOW there's 3200 color source, fast graphics/scrolling source, border bar source, and smoe other nifty things because I worte and uploadedd them myself. >Ben Youngdahl >youngdahl@gacvx1.gac.edu Jonah Stich jonah@crl.ucsd.edu PS. If you want me to mail you the 3200 color source, send me mail to the address listed three lines above. I am VERY bad about getting back to people, so unless I have mail sitting in my mailbox reminding me, I'll probably forget to do it.