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Subject: Re: info for the masses
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Date: 15 Jan 91 02:02:16 GMT
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In article <15603@sdcc6.ucsd.edu> jonah@crl.ucsd.edu (Jonah Stich) writes:
>In article <1991Jan14.005429.1@gacvx1.gac.edu> youngdahl@gacvx1.gac.edu writes:
>>My name is Ben Youngdahl, and I'm a student of Comp. Sci. at Gustavus Adolphus
>>College in Minnesota.  I've been programming on Apple II's since 1982 when I
>>owned a II+.  Now I'm equipted with a IIgs and a strong will to create
>>something new for this fantastic computer.
>Okay, you've made my day! :)
	Me too! New programmers for the GS are appreciated heartily!
(I've started GS specific programming too and can't figure something out
on my FIRST program, so I may post source later)

>What you gotta do is RUN, don't walk, and get yourself any/all of the following 
>you don't already have:
>
>* A modem
>* An AOL account
	Oh comon! This guy is already on USENET and has INTERNET access
(either direct FTP or to some that have mail "servers" or whatever they're
called).
	Wasting money on one of those pay services seems dumb! I will
admit that I haven't used any of those services for more than a minute or
two on demos, but I can't IMAGINE how anything can be better than
InterNet/UseNet! (UNIX too!) Either FREE (Univ students/employees of big 
companies) or VERY cheap ($10/month Portal accounts! If portal isn't 
countrywide, there are probably other systems or even "regular" BBSes that 
have InterNet access).

>* A subscription to 8/16-Central
	Well this one is probably pretty good.. GS+ would be good too.

>* A GEnie account if you still have some money left.

	SAME reply as for AOL.

>On AOL (and GEnie) there are HUGE source code libraries. There are people

	Well, you can get help through UseNet too... Might take longer
(kinda doubt it!), but it's cheaper.

>Oh, BTW, I agree that some of the FTA stuff is better than Apple's tools,
>but PLEASE use the tools and follow the rules!! If you want to help the GS,
>write something USEFUL, that works with the standard GS interface. Scott
>Gentry is building a list of things people would like to see written. If 
>you can't get through to him, herer are two to chew on:
>
>Mathematica GS
>A GS ray tracer

	Good suggestion about using the tools!!

	Hey, -I- might be able to write a ray-tracer after I'm done with
this Computer Graphics class.. (We're using 386s with an "Imagraph" card that's
512*512*24bit color.. It has a separate monitor.. monochrome monitor then
the "Imagraph" monitor.. There's a gif-viewing utility that a few of us
found and have been fiddling with and it's amazingly fast! But if Todd P's
Lord High Giffer is more than TWICE as fast as Jonah's, it might actually
start to give this one a run for it's money!  Oh yeah, the main thing I
was going to say is that the graphic functions for this thing seem remarkably
like the ToolBox.. but probably all systems' functions will seem that way..
Like Windows stuff probably seems like the ToolBox at least a little bit)
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