Xref: utzoo unix-pc.general:7195 comp.sys.att:11454 Path: utzoo!utgpu!watserv1!watmath!uunet!samsung!usc!apple!portal!cup.portal.com!thad From: thad@cup.portal.com (Thad P Floryan) Newsgroups: unix-pc.general,comp.sys.att Subject: Re: Brownouts, shorts, explosions and the unix pc. Message-ID: <37881@cup.portal.com> Date: 11 Jan 91 14:36:06 GMT References: <1991Jan6.050124.6838@csn.org> <37644@cup.portal.com> <484@dmk3b1.UUCP> <1991Jan11.025038.11661@colnet.uucp> Organization: The Portal System (TM) Lines: 61 res@colnet.uucp (Rob Stampfli) in <1991Jan11.025038.11661@colnet.uucp> writes: >And for those electronics hobbiests amongst you, don't play with Tesla >coils within 400m (1/4 mile) of computers ... you WILL zap CMOS ICs. I am a ham radio operator. I have gone to numerous hamfests where various individuals were actively operating tesla coils in order to garner interest in a potential sale of tesla coil kits. [...] I don't dispute that it is possible to zap a computer with a tesla coil, but why doesn't their use at these hamfests cause a major catastrophe? Probably because the HAMs would jam the remnants of their handheld transceivers down the throat of any clown with a really *B*I*G* Tesla coil! :-) Seriously, as with most other things, there are power differences amongst different models. Contrast a SONY Walkman to a 1000W Phase Linear audio amp. Contrast a gas-operated leaf blower to the engine on the Space Shuttle. Contrast a precision micro soldering pencil to a 500W soldering gun. I've seen small, desktop (literally handheld) Tesla coils, and I've seen Tesla coils from which I want to be more than a mile away when energized. And Popular Science had a picture of one circa 1980 that was over 75 feet tall ... I don't even want to be in the same country when THAT one is fired up! The one the dealer had (re: surge suppressors and UPS systems) was about 4-1/2 feet tall (chest-high to me), and his insurance company "convinced" him not to energize it any more at demonstrations due to claims of damaged computers. We did fire it up "one last time" in his parking lot; neat! It's since been dismantled. High power "anything" will "do in" things. I recall one incident that is "rumored" to have occured either at Ft. Bliss TX (Air Defense School) or at White Sands Missile Range circa late '50s or early '60s: a soldier took a shortcut through the "beam" in a multi-megawatt RADAR installation and keeled over, and it wasn't apparent what happened until after the autopsy: certain internal organs were cooked. This incident is "rumored" to have been the start of what we today know as MicroWave ovens. Though I was there at the time, I don't have any first-hand information, but I also have NO reason to disbelieve such an incident did occur. The frequencies used in consumer-grade ovens "like" objects the size of eyeballs and human testicles which is one of the reasons why, to this day, I still don't have a microwave oven at home. And before you pshaw-away my "fears", remember that one of my specialties is microwave engineering with which I was gainfully employed at the Electronic Defense Labs until I got involved with computers and a small "startup" known as Tymshare Associates whose legacies today are Tymnet (now owned by British Telecom) and McDonnel-Douglas Field Service Operations. One final comment: power decreases with the square of the distance, which is probably why a small Tesla coil at your HAM-fests doesn't perturb the other equipment. Even those huge electro-magnets that are used to lift cars have little power to do so with just an inch or two separation (but, again, the EMP-like effect of a Tesla coil cannot be compared to magnetism). Thad Floryan [ thad@cup.portal.com ]