Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!samsung!usc!snorkelwacker.mit.edu!bloom-picayune.mit.edu!athena.mit.edu!krboyce From: krboyce@athena.mit.edu (Kevin R Boyce) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps Subject: Re: Figures in Word 4.0 Summary: But watch out for the page breaks Message-ID: <1991Jan8.173714.581@athena.mit.edu> Date: 8 Jan 91 17:37:14 GMT References: Sender: news@athena.mit.edu (News system) Distribution: comp.sys.mac.apps Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology Lines: 41 dana@are.berkeley.edu (Dana E. Keil) writes: >teskridg@nmsu.edu (Tom Eskridge) writes: > >>Is there any way to fix the position of graphics in a Word 4.0 document rather >>than having the graphic treated as a floating character? I'm looking to put >>figures at the bottom or top of a page rather than having them float around >>the page. > >Certainly, you choose position from the format menu and tell it to >position to the top, botom or center using the popup in the dialog >box, or type into the popup the exact position in inches (points, cm, >or whatever). The graphic should be in a paragraph by itself (otherwise >text with it in the same paragraph will also be positioned). Here's my problem with that, as near as I can figure out: The graphic still remembers its "in-line" position in the text, which is where it was before you turned positioning on, and where it will go if you turn it back off. Now, if the graphic is large enough that it _would have_ caused a page break if it were still at its "in-line" position, it will _still_ cause a page break there, and then be positioned correctly on the next page. Another way of looking at it is that text will flow forward but not backward around a graphic. Yet another is that pagination is done before positioning. Note: I have only tried this with graphics that are the full width of the text area. (That's what I will use mostly in my th*s*s.) The two people I talked to at Microsoft were totally clueless. So... Is there a way around this? (BTW, jOn, if you're listening, Nisus seems to have the same problem. Of course I'm sure one could write a macro...) My plan now is to manually change the in-line position just before print it out (along with formatting the index and TOC and running it through EndNote...). Sheesh. --------- Kevin boyce@amo.mit.edu "And hey, the cross is in the ballpark." -Paul Simon