Path: utzoo!censor!geac!torsqnt!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!uunet!midway!ellis.uchicago.edu!xdab From: xdab@ellis.uchicago.edu (David Baird) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps Subject: Re: Figures in Word 4.0 Message-ID: <1991Jan12.050349.14616@midway.uchicago.edu> Date: 12 Jan 91 05:03:49 GMT References: <1991Jan8.173714.581@athena.mit.edu> <6009@stpstn.UUCP> Sender: news@midway.uchicago.edu (News Administrator) Distribution: comp.sys.mac.apps Organization: University of Chicago Lines: 41 In article <6009@stpstn.UUCP> cox@stpstn.UUCP (Brad Cox) writes: >In article <1991Jan8.173714.581@athena.mit.edu> krboyce@athena.mit.edu (Kevin R Boyce) writes: >>dana@are.berkeley.edu (Dana E. Keil) writes: >>>teskridg@nmsu.edu (Tom Eskridge) writes: >>>>Is there any way to fix the position of graphics in a Word 4.0 document >>> >>>Certainly, you choose position from the format menu and ... >> >>Here's my problem with that,... >>Now, if the graphic is large enough that it _would have_ >>caused a page break if it were still at its "in-line" position, it will >>_still_ cause a page break there, and then be positioned correctly on the >>next page. > >I had an extended discussion with one of Word's developers about this very >matter. It seems that they decided that reliable figure and footnote handling >was a problem for a page layout program, not a problem for Word. > Such a decision, if it still stands, is at the least, a poor solution. Any serious academic or professional writing will require footnotes, and probably the palcement of figures/graphics. At the moment, Word does treat footnotes in a tolerable fashion, while PageMaker doesn't have a clue to serious book-length typesetting problems (or even dissertations). If MicroSoft could just get serious about really fine tuning some of the things that already put it heads above most other word processors, they would really be unbeatable. In my experience, footnotes work ok in Word, but try to full justify 11pt text. Many book publishers prefer body text in 11 point size, but one can not use Word to produce the camera ready text, as the program can not handle a font size that is not in the system (usually 10, 12, 14, 18, and 24 point sizes). What happens is that the right margin of text is not justified, but is quite ragged. Utilizing ATM does not overcome this limitation. If Microsoft could just get it right! -- X-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-X X David Baird xdab@midway.uchicago.edu X X University of Chicago d-baird@uchicago.edu X X University Computing Organizations (312) 702-7161 X