Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!samsung!uakari.primate.wisc.edu!bin From: bin@primate.wisc.edu (Brain in Neutral) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system Subject: Re: History of Macintalk (was Re: Status of Macintalk 2.0) Message-ID: <3713@uakari.primate.wisc.edu> Date: 10 Jan 91 05:50:00 GMT References: <5152@idunno.Princeton.EDU> Sender: bin@primate.wisc.edu Reply-To: bin@primate.wisc.edu Lines: 42 From article <5152@idunno.Princeton.EDU>, by bskendig@dry.Princeton.EDU (Brian Kendig): > from crashing your machine. Remember, it was made back when the Mac > Plus was the top-of-the-line machine, I believe, and how much software > like that will still run and behave itself on a IIfx? Apple ads would have you believe that everything that's ever run on any Macintosh will still run on every Macintosh... > As for this `2.0' version, since there's no conceivable way that Apple > could or would have updated the speech driver without someone here > knowing (unless all the Apple people here are bloody liars ;), is > probably a version `1.31' with the `vers' resource updated by someone > wishing to create a stir (and succeeding, too). Well, I've now received 2.0, so after reading this I decided to poke around in 1.31 and 2.0 with ResEdit. Here's what I found: 1.31 2.0 rsrc num size rsrc num size DRVR 20 19310 DRVR 31 19310 RULZ 129 8253 RULZ 129 6922 RULZ 2129 7050 TALK 1 1626 TALK 1 1626 STR 14 says 1.31, 6/29/87 STR 14 says 2.0, 6/29/87 and has name P. Mercer and has name G. Kearney no vers resource vers 1 and 2 present, both say version 2.0, date 1988/1989 and have name G. Kearney The driver code appears to be the same in that you can lock your machine instantly in the same way: set the system beep to something other than "Simple beep" (e.g., Monkey), make your machine say something, then do something that will cause a beep (click outside an alert, say). Voila, frozen Macintosh. (This is true on my IIsi, at least.) Why are there two RULZ resources, though? -- Paul DuBois dubois@primate.wisc.edu