Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!sdd.hp.com!spool2.mu.edu!uwm.edu!bionet!parc!romero From: romero@parc.xerox.com (Antonio Romero) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next Subject: Re: Benchmarks Message-ID: <1991Jan8.231145.3537@parc.xerox.com> Date: 8 Jan 91 23:11:45 GMT References: <10016@pasteur.Berkeley.EDU> <1991Jan5.022126.19747@percy.rain.com> Sender: news@parc.xerox.com Organization: Xerox PARC Lines: 26 In article <1991Jan5.022126.19747@percy.rain.com> nerd@percy.rain.com (Michael Galassi) writes: >In article <10016@pasteur.Berkeley.EDU> jclee@cory.Berkeley.EDU (James C. Lee) writes: >>> The NeXTStation was about 20-30% faster on this group of benchmarks >>> than the DECStation 3100. This is surprising since the DECStation is >>> rated and 13.9 Mips and the NeXTstation benches at 15.0 Mips. You >>> would expect from the Mips rating only about a 10% increase. >MIPS = Milions of Instructions Per Second. An 040 does more in each >average instruction than the MIPS R[23]000 (in the DECstations) >... It folows that no usefull information can be gotten by >comparing MIPS figures for processors of different families. Nope, 'fraid not... MIPS these days have been normalized to make 1 MIPS= some canonical VAX 11/780 somewhere. This is not to suggest that useful information can be gotten from hype-sheet MIPS figures, but they're inaccurate because people tweak the tests that generate the numbers to take advantage of on-chip caches, unusually fast instructions unique to that chip, etc., not because the processors do different amounts of work per instruction. MIPS ratings are notoriously bogus. Does anyone know if the SPECMARK is any better, or if it's susceptible to the same sort of cheating that more traditional benchmarks suffer from? -Antonio Romero romero@arisia.xerox.com