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From: melling@cs.psu.edu (Michael D Mellinger)
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Subject: Re: X11 for the NeXTstation
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Date: 12 Jan 91 07:03:05 GMT
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In article <1117@toaster.SFSU.EDU> eps@toaster.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott) writes:


   Big F---ing Deal.  As far as I'm concerned, stuff like


   [stuff used by the rest of the world deleted]

   are all "foreign compatibility" products.  None of these are
   native to the NeXT.  I don't want to pay for their development or
   their support in bundled systems.  Third parties are perfectly
   capable of venturing into these arenas, and deserve all the
   profits they can milk out of you suckers.

   I also have a very low opinion of people who resort to emotional
   blackmail.

People can't throw away a $100,000 investment.  The NeXT has to be
able to coexist in existing environments like DOS, and X.

   NeXT has better things to worry about... like developing a
   C2-certifiable release.  That's going to count for a lot more,
   since the really big customers won't even look at NeXT without
   that, and it's not something a third party can easily address.

Not porting X themselves is one thing, but they could have supported
the others that were doing it.  How far did the people get that were
supporting XNeXT?  R4 does run under NeXTStep 1.0.  How much work
would it take to get it to work under 2.0 if NeXT helped the
programmer?  NeXT is throwing away easy money!  Even Macintoy has X
support.

   As it is, we see NeXTs having a lot fewer deficiencies than Suns.
   As soon as the color NeXTs start shipping in volume, we'll have
   a hard time justifying more SPARCstations--they're just too damn
   expensive to bring up to a similar level of functionality.


As soon as....  NeXT has had machines on the market for more than 2
years.  As soon as NeXT has a low cost machine....  How many people
can justify spending $2000 on a color monitor alone?


-Mike