Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!sdd.hp.com!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!rpi!uwm.edu!csd4.csd.uwm.edu!info-high-audio-request From: kube@kokoro.UCSD.EDU (Paul Kube) Newsgroups: rec.audio.high-end Subject: Theta DSP digital preamp Message-ID: <8808@uwm.edu> Date: 10 Jan 91 14:20:26 GMT Sender: news@uwm.edu Lines: 39 Approved: tjk@csd4.csd.uwm.edu Originator: tjk@csd4.csd.uwm.edu I've been reading a bit about the Theta DSPre. This is a $4000 "digital preamp" containing an 8x oversampling 16-bit D/A that has got some pretty breathless reviews-- comments of the "I always thought analog was better than digital but I like CD's through the Theta better than vinyl through my $10000 phono section" type. The moral is, apparently, that you can get very nice performance from a conventional 44KHz linear 16-bit format and off-the-shelf 176KHz DAC--- if you have the right interpolation algorithm for generating the additional 3 samples per tick on playback. (Maybe 24 bit 88KHz isn't needed after all...) But like typical audiophile reviews, these leave a lot of unanswered questions. Such as, just what is the hardware here? The designer Mike Moffat says two RISC processors, one per channel, each at 38 MIPS. Has anyone looked inside to see, or otherwise heard, if these are iPSC/860's? How much ROM does he use for each? Also, according to the press releases, the big difference between the Theta oversampling algorithm and the usual 16-bit algorithm is that it is optimized for both phase and amplitude fidelity, instead of just flat amplitude response. So that leads to more questions. I haven't seen a description of the "usual" oversampling algorithm, but why not just use a symmetric (noncausal, but so what) impulse response in the interpolation filter, and therefore a real transfer function, so it will be guaranteed phase invariant? Then you can just worry about how to truncate a sinc to give you bandpass ripple and rolloff you can live with, given how much computer you have. Or is Theta really talking about trying to reconstruct phase relationships destroyed by "brick wall" analog filters used in 44KHz recorders? That would be trickier, but then I would think it would sound lousy on heavily oversampled, digitally filtered CD's like Cheskys, but there's no mention of this in any of the reviews I've read. Can anyone shed some light on this for me? Gratefully, Paul Kube@ucsd.edu, ...!ucsd!kube