Path: utzoo!censor!geac!torsqnt!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!bonnie.concordia.ca!uunet!wuarchive!uwm.edu!csd4.csd.uwm.edu!info-high-audio-request From: fmaster@brahms.udel.edu (Fred A Masterson) Newsgroups: rec.audio.high-end Subject: Re: Carver vs. the dB Message-ID: <8893@uwm.edu> Date: 14 Jan 91 14:03:59 GMT Sender: news@uwm.edu Lines: 33 Approved: tjk@csd4.csd.uwm.edu Originator: tjk@csd4.csd.uwm.edu In Article 1165 (1/11/91), Steve_Graham@ub.cc.umich.edu writes: >Carver's bit in the last issue were interesting, but I can't help but feel >that he makes too much of how much energy is represented by a 1 dB change. >To be sure, changes of a fraction of a dB in response are quite plainly >audible. But the dB is used because it reflects the way we hear things >better than "flat" measurements, and to play with numbers like that just >misses the point, it seems to me. True, frequency response can affect the >perception of depth, but I haven't experience having a cheap component turned >into a great one by means of equalization yet. I also found Carver's article (#1137, reprinted from the Oregon Triode Society newsletter, _Positive Feedback_) to be interesting, and also quite appealing, for two reasons. First, I agree with Carter that one should search for scientifically credible explanations instead of endorsing mystical nonsense. Second, in my own experience with equalizers, a mere 1 db peak or trough spread out over two or three octaves can make a significant difference in sound, and one that can, under the right circumstances, be regarded as a significant sonic improvement. The difference won't transform a cheap component into a great one, but hey- neither will the difference produced by a mega-expensive cable from a boutique wire bandit. The difference isn't real large, but this should be put in the context of high-end reviews where reviewers often are highly motivated to find and to exaggerate differences, even relatively small ones. Fred Masterson fmaster@brahms.udel.edu Cognitive Sciences fmaster@chopin.udel.edu University of Delaware