Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!usc!ucla-cs!news From: 3KSNFZM@vmd.cso.uiuc.edu (Edward A. Lisowski) Newsgroups: sci.med.aids Subject: RE: HIV as genetic weapon Message-ID: <1991Jan10.065128.24023@cs.ucla.edu> Date: 10 Jan 91 03:38:39 GMT Sender: news@cs.ucla.edu (Mr. News) Organization: UCLA, Computer Science Department Lines: 36 Approved: ddodell@stjhmc.fidonet.org (David Dodell) Note: non-commercial reproduction. Nntp-Posting-Host: squid.cs.ucla.edu Archive-Number: 2882 About 2 months ago, I asked for information about Dr. Francis Cress Welsing, who was going to speak at the University of Illinois about "Global White Supremacy and AIDS." I want to thank all of you who responded. During her 2 hour talk, she only mentioned HIV once for a few minutes then said something about KEMRON during Q and A. She claimed that HIV has been around since 1968 and cited a book, "A Survey of Chemical and Biological Warfare," by John Cookson and Judith Nottingham and published by Monthly Review Press, in 1970. Two relevent quotes from the book are: "Just recently a great deal of useful work has been done on the Vervet Monkey Disease which caused seven deaths in Germany. Reports of progress were: sent to 40 Laboratories all over the world; ...A non infective complement fixing antigen has been prepared for distribution to the WHO reference labora- tories." (pages 110-111) "Vervet monkey disease may well be an example of a whole new class of disease-causing organisms. Handling of blood and tissues without precautions causes infection. It is unaffected by any antibiotic substance so far tried and is unrelated to any other organism. It causes fatality in some cases and can be venerally transmitted in man. In words of Dr. C.E. Gordon Smith, 'It has possible potential as an infectious disease of man.' It presumably is also of BW interest." (pages 322-323) A major flaw in Dr. Cress Welsing's analysis is that Vervet (green) monkey disease is NOT caused by a retrovirus. I checked with a veterinary pathobi- ologist at the time as to what causes this disease (I think he said it was like brucellosis, but I am not certain). She assumed AIDS came from green monkeys (according to one theory) and that this is the same as Vervet monkey disease. This is not true. Very few people at her talk that night are aware of this, unfortunately. This may be the same reference that someone referred to in one of the "HIV as genetic weapon" postings. Ed Lisowski